Vermillion cloak's refresh

[Daveman]

Today someone in my pt mentioned that the refresh from a vermillion cloak doesn't stack with rdm's refresh. I always thought that it did, and was just wondering if anyone knew if it really doesn't stack. (like if you own a vermillion cloak find a rdm and test it out or something like that)

 

[Rones]

It does stack.

 

[Drewtaru]

aye... it does......
but something thats often misconceived about the refresh items is that they are as potent as RDM refresh....
its quite the opposite really...
1mp/3sec maybe.... not fully sure...... but its not so potent as the rdm one (which is 3mp/3sec i think... man im a newbie... dont even know for sure how much mp REFRESH brings back..... is it 3mp/4sec??)

so itll take 5 mins before you get back 100mp off the vermillion cloak, black cloak, nobles tunic, rdm af2hat, blm af2 body and whatever else may have a refresh effect......

im not wearing my thinking cap at the moment..... so dont quote me on this stuff

 

[Rones]

1 mp per 3 sec for refresh equip like vermillion.
3 mp per 3 sec for refresh spell (breaks down to 1 mp per sec for easy calculations).
1 mp per 3 sec for ballad 1.
2 mp per 3 sec for ballad 2. (stacks with ballad 1 creating appereance of 3 mp per 3 sec like normal refresh).

Everything stacks except mp drinks. They don't stack with the refresh/ballad spells I believe.

 

[Drewtaru]

aye yeah thats it..... think i was on the right track... just all sloppy

 

[teng]

So.....................if it is worn by a summoner, will the refresh stack with the Auto-Refresh trait ofa summoner?

 

[Rones]

Yes it does stack.

 

[Dua]

Drinks stack with Ballad, but does not stack with RDM refresh. Which is why it is better to take BRDs for boss battles if all you need is refresh.

 

[Rones]

I thought it was something like that, thanks for clearing it up.

 

[galix]

Now I'm not sure if the "Adds Refresh" effect stacks if you have it on more then one piece of equipment, but I would imagine it does. If thats the case

Get a 75 RDM/SMN w/

-RDM AF2 Hat http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?fitem=5024 (1mp/3sec)
-Dalmatica http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?fitem=4706(1mp/3sec)
-Mistilteinn http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?fitem=3287(1mp/3sec[ somehow 8) ])
-Refresh (Spell) (3mp/3sec)
-Ballad 1+2 (3mp/3sec)
-Summoner SJ (1mp/sec)

Looking at 10 MP back every 3 seconds :shock:

Thinking about it now, I doubt it actually works like that...but wouldnt that be awesome if it did.

Which also brings a question...For the Gjallarhorn (Bard relic weapon http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?fitem=8563)...does that mean Ballad 1 would give 3mp/3sec and Ballad 2 would give 5mp/3sec? Now THAT would be some crazy stuff

 

[dragoonnerzul]

i didn't know that it stacked. crazy :shock:

 

[dragoonnerzul]

i didn't know that it stacked. crazy :shock:

 

[xKronox]

1 mp per 3 sec for refresh equip like vermillion.
3 mp per 3 sec for refresh spell (breaks down to 1 mp per sec for easy calculations).
1 mp per 3 sec for ballad 1.
2 mp per 3 sec for ballad 2. (stacks with ballad 1 creating appereance of 3 mp per 3 sec like normal refresh).

Everything stacks except mp drinks. They don't stack with the refresh/ballad spells I believe.

Drinks do stack with ballad. Drink's don't stack with refresh because it gives the "Refresh status" Icon. Ballad is a "Song status" Icon thus technically stacking.

 

[Rones]

Dua said that exact same thing already Kronox.:

Drinks stack with Ballad, but does not stack with RDM refresh

 

[Shia]

Tested, observed. Whm with vermillion cloak, smn sub auto refresh + 2 ballad + refresh he gained 8MP per sec.