What Tank you will pick for your exp pt?

PLD or NIN for your pt?

  • PLD

    Votes: 90 44.6%

  • NIN

    Votes: 112 55.4%
  • Total voters
    202
Isotope said:
That is just a lie.... shadows would run out too fast to have time to finish casting with MNKs & those caster attacking mobs. You can't also forget some mobs like to double attack a lot.
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Indeed. Situational has already been brought up. There are many other jobs besides just MNK MOBs. I agree, I want a PLD tanking a MNK.

What about MOBs that aren't MNKs and that don't spam things that chew through shadows? No damage taken > little damage taken.

Oh and Jaz...Protein shakes ftw!
 
Point I'm trying to get across here is PLD can safely tank way more mobs then NIN can. I've played both sides of the spectrum, I put NIN in a storage box way way back in the warehouse & left out my Kitty PLD action figure doll.
 
Isotope said:
That is just a lie.... shadows would run out too fast to have time to finish casting with MNKs & those caster attacking mobs. You can't also forget some mobs like to double attack a lot.
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lol this whole topic is stupid, pld are great tanks and all, but in exp seriously guys, nin wins pretty much hands down. NIN exp parties on average are much higher than pld parties, and are usually giving good exp even if the party is not very good. With a bard and ninja, exp is garunteed to be at least 5k an hour, if your not pulling that you suck at life. Shit in bibiki on birds with a nin and bard we were doing like 8k/hour and it wasnt any kind of cannon.

If you have a decent ninja, you have zero down time between fights and fast exp.


And Blazn my ninja will destroy you any day of the week in damage. I'd bet by at least 10%....assuming your 75.
 
Isotope said:
Point I'm trying to get across here is PLD can safely tank way more mobs then NIN can. I've played both sides of the spectrum
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Wrong. Maybe you suck at NIN?
 
Sorry LMAO no, I know how to keep hate as best as a NIN can using all NIN tools possible, destroying my wallet, etc. I make sure I can be the best possible of whatever job I am playing.
 
Isotope said:
That is just a lie.... shadows would run out too fast to have time to finish casting with MNKs & those caster attacking mobs. You can't also forget some mobs like to double attack a lot.
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You don't quite understand how Monks, and any other mob attacks.

This is why I solo so well as MNK/WHM. It's all about timing. Even though Monks attack multiple times in the chat log, all hits actually take effect at the same exact time. Once you start seeing the monster begining their attack cycle animation, it's safe to cast until it's next attack cycle, even if visually(animation) and recordably(chat log,) those attacks take up 3 of the 6 seconds it takes for a Monk to attack. The same is appliable to any mob, the only wildcard is TP attacks, which can happen at any given moment, provided the mob has enough TP.
 
Isotope said:
I know how to keep hate as best as a NIN
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It doesn't really sound like it.


Nobody's saying PLDs are bad tanks, dude.
Most people even admit that they'd rather havea PLD in several circumstances. Being that the conversation is about XP MOBs and nothing else, 90% of the time the party doesn't need the "safety" tanking of a PLD.

If given a choice between 3-5k an hour and 5-8k an hour, what would you rather get?

Bad parties can ruin XP regardless of tank type.
But assuming good parties, comparing both tanks, XP is faster with NIN, period. There is no contesting that. That is the only thing people seem to even try to say in favor of NINs...You can have all the things you said about PLD pros. I agreed. They are all true.

I pulled 13k in an hour and a half NIN tanking last week...And more than that partying with NINs as my THF. My duties also included pulling and participating in the SC. Oooh rough life, I know. My point is, even being "busy" at all times of fighting and pulling, my party was able to get that kind of XP...NO DOWNTIME AT ALL.
Sure, a good party and PLD could get good numbers, but they'll have some downtime, ultimately slowing XP. And it's XP MOBs we're talking about.

PLD = Safer
NIN = Quicker

Neither of those two things sounds bad, do they?
 
NIN for the land slide.

Really though I have died alot of times with my BLM with a NIN tank but I know how to work with a NIN tank now. Also a BLM does not get hate unless you spam nukes which you can do with PLD but you lose alot of MP spamin, that is why most nukin should be done when MB and or kill shot.

NIN wins end of story.

Ive gotten better results with a NIN tank then a PLD and soo has 90% of this Forum.
 
Foofighter said:
I bet I could outdamage you while on my Ninja and tank the mobs.
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so many people have said that and so many have failed
 
Darklion said:
NIN wins end of story.

Ive gotten better results with a NIN tank then a PLD and soo has 90% of this Forum.
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You cannot speak for others, this is why there is a poll at the top & so far I don't see anything close to a landslide, give it time & then it may be more of a fact then opinion.
 
I'm voting Paladin. The amount of damage a party's damage dealers can do is directly proportionate to the amount of hate the party's tank can hold. Whilst Ninjas do beat out Paladins in terms of damage taken and healer MP, they tend not to hold hate unless the rest of the party makes an effort to hold back.
 
It'll never be fact, if it were fact, there'd only be one job who can tank, as the other one would never get invited to a party.
 
Isotope said:
You cannot speak for others, this is why there is a poll at the top & so far I don't see anything close to a landslide, give it time & then it may be more of a fact then opinion.
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I see it every night we make PTs, First we look for a NIN tank and we can't find it then we manaburn. if that fails we use are time more effectively by doing quest and what not. PLD is really now worth the XP unless you really are in need of XP.
 
Pompidou said:
I'm voting Paladin. The amount of damage a party's damage dealers can do is directly proportionate to the amount of hate the party's tank can hold. Whilst Ninjas do beat out Paladins in terms of damage taken and healer MP, they tend not to hold hate unless the rest of the party makes an effort to hold back.
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yet they bust out the 5-8K xp an hour.. and PLD only nets you tops 6K.
 
Darklion said:
I see it every night we make PTs, First we look for a NIN tank and we can't find it then we manaburn. if that fails we use are time more effectively by doing quest and what not. PLD is really now worth the XP unless you really are in need of XP.
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ok DL most plds read this might get a bit anoyyed and next time on a god/HNM let u nuke etc watch u die so lose exp for picking a nin or a blm over them, that would be funny a evil pld XD
 
blazn said:
ok DL most plds read this might get a bit anoyyed and next time on a god/HNM let u nuke etc watch u die so lose exp for picking a nin or a blm over them, that would be funny a evil pld XD
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I wouldn't be the BLM gettin most of the hate, I am hume and level 73 a taru would out do me, if the PLD wants to see more then 1 BLM die then he will.
 
Darklion said:
I see it every night we make PTs, First we look for a NIN tank and we can't find it then we manaburn. if that fails we use are time more effectively by doing quest and what not. PLD is really now worth the XP unless you really are in need of XP.
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If your going to be baised, at least bring some good reasoning to the table.....
 
blazn said:
ok DL most plds read this might get a bit anoyyed and next time on a god/HNM let u nuke etc watch u die so lose exp for picking a nin or a blm over them, that would be funny a evil pld XD
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Just like everyone knows NIN for XP, everyone knows PLD for end game.
 
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