Wimpy Leaders >_>

Justinp said:
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:facepalm:

I totally forgot that shit was down there.
 
So we're comparing total registered users to the online users?

I better comparison could be total online active users to total online active users of the server, which outweighs qcdn by 6 to 1.

Or total registered users of quetz to total registered users of qcdn, which now quetz would most likely outweigh easily 10 to 1.
 
Justinp said:
I said 11k registered users! I didn't say that all of them were unbanned and viewed QCDN everyday.
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Nothing against you at all JP. I was just tossing that out there basically for the quote below.

Urat said:
So we're comparing total registered users to the online users?

I better comparison could be total online active users to total online active users of the server, which outweighs qcdn by 6 to 1.

Or total registered users of quetz to total registered users of qcdn, which now quetz would most likely outweigh easily 10 to 1.
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I'm curious as to where you get these stats. Which numbers are you using to get those ratios?
 
Miros said:
Nothing against you at all JP. I was just tossing that out there basically for the quote below.



I'm curious as to where you get these stats. Which numbers are you using to get those ratios?
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Remember Miros 95% of all statistics are made up on the spot. Ok maybe 65%.
 
This is Urat, guys. He got his hard facts from years of Wiki research.
 
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Urat, Urat Urat... ...tarU, tarU, tarU!

KARMA THE DEFINITIONS*:
1. Everything that you do has repercussions. It comes back to you one way or another.
2. You cannot escape the consequences of your actions. What you do comes back to you.
3. You will see the long-term effects of your actions.
4. The total effect of a person's actions and conduct during the successive phases of the person's existence, regarded as determining the person's destiny, especially, in his next incarnation.
5. What goes around comes around.
6. Your actions all have consequences. Don't ever be fooled into thinking that your actions don't have consequences. Don't think you can get away with bad choices even if you don't seem to get caught. Remember verse seven tells us that God cannot be mocked. He sees it all. You reap what you sow.
* also available on wiki: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karma.


HUMILITY THE DEFINITION*:
The state or quality of being humble; freedom from pride and arrogance; lowliness of mind; a modest estimate of one's own worth; a sense of one's own unworthiness through imperfection and sinfulness; self-abasement; humbleness
* also available on wiki: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humility

You are like an old country song.... you ask why your girl left you, why your truck broke down, why your house caught fire and why your dog left you... then you cry.

Quit your crying and do something about your situation. Do yourself a favor and listen to the advice of some of the respected members of the community. They became respected in the community for a reason. Maybe you should look into the reasons why they are respected and oh yeah; QUIT YOUR CRYING!

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Urat said:
So we're comparing total registered users to the online users?

I better comparison could be total online active users to total online active users of the server, which outweighs qcdn by 6 to 1.

Or total registered users of quetz to total registered users of qcdn, which now quetz would most likely outweigh easily 10 to 1.
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Yeah... no. I'm not going to sit here and argue with you, but definitely more than 10% of Quetzalcoatl has been to QCDN and know about it.
 
Courtney said:
I don't wish you'd die and I don't really know you from QCDN.

Shouting dumb shit in Whitegate is where I know you from, and that certainly exposes you to more of the server than QCDN does, and it doesn't do you any favours...
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That's how Urat made my blist. What I've read on forums has only encouraged me to keep him there but I would never just blist people cause of them being stupid on forums.
 
In Urat's defense, some of the registered users are not on quetz anymore. Additionally, quite a few of them are people that no longer play, and people from BG thaat's registered to read some entertaining flames back in the day.

Urat said:
#1: 9/10 of my posts fail, either typos, misposts, or general bad ideas

#2 I don't enjoy following the pattern and stick out like a sore thumb

#3 I don't give a fuck about much

#4 I'm a dick

#5 I ignore most posts when A I don't really feel like replying since its either already been answered or there are 4 other posts like it and I've answered one of those.

#6 I'm still pretty new.

The list goes on and on, but those are some of the big ones.

Also: tristam hit it on the nose. When I said I rep myself, I don't mean I just /sea all my level and grab someone, I ask the leader what he wants and do the searching for him, OR I go "hey I'm leaving soon and so and so is lfp, they're x job and y level, want me to rep myself with them?"

Honestly I screwed up the title tbh, I was at first aiming more towards the leaders that let a member push them around and make the decisions for them, when they were the one that wanted to start the party in the first place, then got sidetracked and ended up ranting about the pushy player instead ^_^;
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you're almost like a very bad version of me.

Almost.
 
Uzor said:
In Urat's defense, some of the registered users are not on quetz anymore. Additionally, quite a few of them are people that no longer play, and people from BG thaat's registered to read some entertaining flames back in the day.


you're almost like a very bad version of me.

Almost.
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I'm not going to lie...I have to do a double take on your names since they both start with a U and tend to think you're both the same person...I apologise.

Urat, Like Khidir has already stated...you were in my CoP static for a short while...and I got lots of complaints from you since well...you acted like an idiot...I knew about your rep on the forum and even my friends said to get rid of you but I gave you the benefit of the doubt.

You panic easily...and start using caps while typing and it gets tedious, you also make stupid mistakes that got the others even more pissed off...I also think you just try a bit too hard to get people to like you or you try just as hard to get people to hate you...you're just a strange cookie.
 
Urat said:
So we're comparing total registered users to the online users?

I better comparison could be total online active users to total online active users of the server, which outweighs qcdn by 6 to 1.

Or total registered users of quetz to total registered users of qcdn, which now quetz would most likely outweigh easily 10 to 1.
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Nice baseless statistics here. My turn now.
SE has consistently said they have about 500,000 subscribers. Now then, let's assume that each of the 32 servers has an equal distribution of players. That makes 15,625 players on each server (and to be honest I think that's rather generous concerning Quetz). Now then, let's assume again that exactly half of the players play from Japan, and the other half play from the US/EU(combining both US and EU, I think it'd balance out with the JP players. Or not, who knows). That's abooouuut 7800 players who live in the US or Europe.
This is, of course, discounting the few people who hold multiple accounts, or RMT. We'll just run with the 7800 number.
And even considering that a handful of members may just make accounts and disappear soon after, that doesn't mean that they aren't browsing this site. Hell, there are people with very few posts who I talked to back when I was still on Quetz and knew you were a dumbass.
And word of mouth travels fast. Let's assume that only one member of a large endgame linkshell browses the forums. Let's say you apply to their linkshell, it'd only take that one person bringing up your fuckwittery in order to earn you a stamp of disapproval from the leadership, and losing out on joining that shell.
So all that means that the only players that don't really know about you are those who have been stuck in the dark(without a linkshell or access to the forums), who are either very new players or just casual soloers, and most of the Japanese playerbase. But they're slowly learning how much you suck, as made apparent by the three JP players you posted about earlier in this thread, and I wouldn't discount how their word of mouth travels.

Yay, information!
 
Xalioniaf said:
Nice baseless statistics here. My turn now.
SE has consistently said they have about 500,000 subscribers. Now then, let's assume that each of the 32 servers has an equal distribution of players. That makes 15,625 players on each server (and to be honest I think that's rather generous concerning Quetz). Now then, let's assume again that exactly half of the players play from Japan, and the other half play from the US/EU(combining both US and EU, I think it'd balance out with the JP players. Or not, who knows). That's abooouuut 7800 players who live in the US or Europe.
This is, of course, discounting the few people who hold multiple accounts, or RMT. We'll just run with the 7800 number.
And even considering that a handful of members may just make accounts and disappear soon after, that doesn't mean that they aren't browsing this site. Hell, there are people with very few posts who I talked to back when I was still on Quetz and knew you were a dumbass.
And word of mouth travels fast. Let's assume that only one member of a large endgame linkshell browses the forums. Let's say you apply to their linkshell, it'd only take that one person bringing up your fuckwittery in order to earn you a stamp of disapproval from the leadership, and losing out on joining that shell.
So all that means that the only players that don't really know about you are those who have been stuck in the dark(without a linkshell or access to the forums), who are either very new players or just casual soloers, and most of the Japanese playerbase. But they're slowly learning how much you suck, as made apparent by the three JP players you posted about earlier in this thread, and I wouldn't discount how their word of mouth travels.

Yay, information!
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wait you left?
 
I think Urat gets his kicks off seeing his name come up in threads like this.
 
Urat, you were a friend of mine in game, so please, take my advice. Don't say anything.

That's the advice. Don't say anything.

You're not a bad guy. You're enthusiastic. You seem to mean well, despite how things turn out in practice. But, you talk inappropriately. I don't want you to become the next QCDN pariah. You might think it's too late, but it isn't. You can save your entire FFXI reputation. It's not too late. All you have to do is shut up. I mean that in a nice way. You're in quicksand, and you need not die. I'm tossing you a rope called shut up. Seriously.

If you let this drop, if you keep yourself out of trouble, people will forget. Don't make exaggerate. Don't post ideas for things you can't do yet. Don't talk. You have friends. You have a linkshell. You have tells. Stick to that for quite a while. I'm watching you destroy yourself and it isn't fun.

You seem to have a great need to prove yourself. I can understand. You were a mid level character in a social shell of 75s. You don't have to prove anything. Don't act big. You don't need to act big. You want to be popular? You can be. Try modesty. Seriously. Some people in FFXI are assholes. The won't be worthwhile no matter what they do. You're not. However, your FFXI social skills need a lot of work. Don't you see what you're making people think of you?

Lay low. If you think you don't need to lay low any longer, lay low another month after that. If you absolutely must post, keep it non XI. Keep it modest. You can be likable. Be likable. Nobody cares about accomplishments when they decide who to be friends with. I had lots of friends and no accomplishments. Just be modest. QCDN will appreciate you for it. FFXI will appreciate you for it. Don't try and stick yourself in the top tier. You won't be till you hit 75 and merit to no end and do endgame stuff. If you try, people will resent you for it. You don't want to be, and don't deserve to be, resented. So for god's sake, stick to your strong suits and stop the know it all business.

Let your name fall off the FFXI radar. Come back with a second chance and you'll be just fine. You're no where near as great as you give the impression you are in your dialogues here and in game. You're no where near as bad as the people here think you are because of your actions. So anyway. Save yourself, because if you become the next FFXI outcast, you'll probably end up quitting. How much fun would that be? If you think there's glory in being the single persecuted victim, there isn't. I hope you take my advice and drop into the shadows till the smoke clears.
 
Courtney said:
I don't wish you'd die and I don't really know you from QCDN.

Shouting dumb shit in Whitegate is where I know you from, and that certainly exposes you to more of the server than QCDN does, and it doesn't do you any favours...
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Exactly. Those statistics dont even matter. :P
 
Daremo said:
Urat, Urat Urat... ...tarU, tarU, tarU!

KARMA THE DEFINITIONS*:
1. Everything that you do has repercussions. It comes back to you one way or another.
2. You cannot escape the consequences of your actions. What you do comes back to you.
3. You will see the long-term effects of your actions.
4. The total effect of a person's actions and conduct during the successive phases of the person's existence, regarded as determining the person's destiny, especially, in his next incarnation.
5. What goes around comes around.
6. Your actions all have consequences. Don't ever be fooled into thinking that your actions don't have consequences. Don't think you can get away with bad choices even if you don't seem to get caught. Remember verse seven tells us that God cannot be mocked. He sees it all. You reap what you sow.
* also available on wiki: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karma.


HUMILITY THE DEFINITION*:
The state or quality of being humble; freedom from pride and arrogance; lowliness of mind; a modest estimate of one's own worth; a sense of one's own unworthiness through imperfection and sinfulness; self-abasement; humbleness
* also available on wiki: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humility

You are like an old country song.... you ask why your girl left you, why your truck broke down, why your house caught fire and why your dog left you... then you cry.

Quit your crying and do something about your situation. Do yourself a favor and listen to the advice of some of the respected members of the community. They became respected in the community for a reason. Maybe you should look into the reasons why they are respected and oh yeah; QUIT YOUR CRYING!

This post is brought to you by the words Karma, Humility and the number 12
1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12... do~ do~ do~ do~
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Just a side note, People overcomplicate Karma. They tend to blurr it with "Right and Wrong" but the fact is that even life needs death, as love needs loss, and pleasure needs pain. However, Ironically, there is neither right, nor wrong...

A murderer can achieve "Good Karma" so long as the killer is true to their nature. For they are not only the driving force towards the defenders and soldiers of our world, but they are the instruments of change for the witnesses and survivors of such atrocities.

As an engineer designs and a chef cooks so does the engineer fail and the cook burn. Does this grant them damnation? No...

So where then does one aquire "Bad Karma"?

Bad karma is achieved only by desire.

Those who desire nothing, have everything.
 
Courtney said:
I don't wish you'd die and I don't really know you from QCDN.

Shouting dumb shit in Whitegate is where I know you from, and that certainly exposes you to more of the server than QCDN does, and it doesn't do you any favours...
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I agree with Courtney on this, I mostly know about you from your shouts in whitegate.
 
Phraust said:
Just a side note, People overcomplicate Karma. They tend to blurr it with "Right and Wrong" but the fact is that even life needs death, as love needs loss, and pleasure needs pain. However, Ironically, there is neither right, nor wrong...

A murderer can achieve "Good Karma" so long as the killer is true to their nature. For they are not only the driving force towards the defenders and soldiers of our world, but they are the instruments of change for the witnesses and survivors of such atrocities.

As an engineer designs and a chef cooks so does the engineer fail and the cook burn. Does this grant them damnation? No...

So where then does one aquire "Bad Karma"?

Bad karma is achieved only by desire.

Those who desire nothing, have everything.
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Ah! I think you are thinking of Dharma. Forgive me if I am wrong.

Karma means differently between religions, the basic idea is positive action by an individual is believed to be rewarded by a positive reaction. Negative action by an individual is believed to be rewarded by a negative reaction.

If a chef burns his food this does not produce negative reaction. If the chef poisons his customers then that will produce a negative reaction.


Dharma
The principle or law that orders the universe; Individual conduct in conformity with this principle.

If a soldier kills for his country then he is fulfilling his dharma (destiny) therefore it is his right action and believed to be rewarded by a positive reaction.

If a soldier kills civilian men,women and children because he can then he is not fulfilling his dharma therefore it is believed this person is to be rewarded with a negative reaction.

A murderer though kills only for his gain therefore it is believed this person is to be rewarded with a negative reaction.

Phraust, you and I can disagree with the meanings of Karma but I respect your explanation of Krama and thank you.

Urat, If you are a dick to the community then the community is most likely going to be a dick to you. If you don't listen to the community most likely the community will not listen to you.
 
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