Yeah....

Sabia said:
This game is retarded. SE really dropped the ball because leaving the ecomony in the hands of 12 year olds and greedy assholes causes this shit to happen. Well I can look foreward to 5 years of farming, fuck you SE.

Just me but I would not go too the trouble of farming that much for it. It was not that long ago that SE released this item into the game. People leveled without it before so why make it into a must have item.
 
Why bother? Upgrading an astral to serket is cheaper and the exact same effect. (more affect actually because your earring slot isn't empty right now I'm guessing) Unless you have a serket already I must agree, anyone stupid enough to buy that earring for more expense than it most likely is a gilbuyer.
 
Palum_Q said:
CubsWoo said:
Sabia said:
This game is retarded. SE really dropped the ball because leaving the ecomony in the hands of 12 year olds and greedy assholes causes this shit to happen. Well I can look foreward to 5 years of farming, fuck you SE.

Hay guys let's have SE price fix the AH and redistribute all the gil so nobody feels left out because they're poor amirite

Yes that's exactly what she meant. WORD FOR WORD EXACTLY what she meant. :roll:

oiforgot my sarcasm tag rolleyes colon

Honestly, all the time anyone spends bitching about a price going up could be spent GOING OUT THERE AND MAKING UP THE DIFFERENCE. I didn't bitch when half the stuff I bought nearly doubled in price. I kept going, earned more, found BETTER ways to make even MORE, and now I have an assload of gil and basically nothing to spend it on because I've got everything I need to just about 75 (on my MNK, anyway. And that ain't cheap.)

If gilbuyers bother you so much (and OBVIOUSLY the cause of that EXACT ITEM YOU WANT is due to GILBUYERS and not OTHER FACTORS) call a GM on everyone in the price history who bid over 3 million and report them. GMs love random accusations.
 
Paying double the price on an item that has been steady is stupid cubs. 2.5 mil, sure why not but 5 mil? If SE wants to combat gil selling and gil buying why doesn't it just ad some more RA/EX gear like the Assult Jerkin, Moldy earring etc? Make it a bitch and a half to quest for but at least you get a fair shot at it. You can't start crafting anymore because of Power levelers buying up materials for more than what the synths are worth, not everyone is an NM hunter and frankly if SE wants to attract some more people to the game and bring old ones back I think this is something they need to re-evaluate. This game is more like a job than my actual job is at this point.

Good for you, you got all your gear on your monk to 75, would you like a cookie for it? I mean please.
 
vang said:
Lol go look at who bought my newly jacked up Ether Ring a week ago.

I <3 Gilbuyers.

I remember seeing someone paying a million extra for Raise III makeing it 3 million before SE did anything. I kinda wished I wrote those names down and charged them for an R3 when they needed it. :roll: Thats just me being sarcastic.
 
Sabia said:
Paying double the price on an item that has been steady is stupid cubs. 2.5 mil, sure why not but 5 mil? If SE wants to combat gil selling and gil buying why doesn't it just ad some more RA/EX gear like the Assult Jerkin, Moldy earring etc? Make it a bitch and a half to quest for but at least you get a fair shot at it. You can't start crafting anymore because of Power levelers buying up materials for more than what the synths are worth, not everyone is an NM hunter and frankly if SE wants to attract some more people to the game and bring old ones back I think this is something they need to re-evaluate. This game is more like a job than my actual job is at this point.

Good for you, you got all your gear on your monk to 75, would you like a cookie for it? I mean please.

I agree with you there. The huge TNL has never been a factor too me when it came too me almost quitting but the prices on AHs. So changing the leveling system really did not matter cause people can't afford the equipment too be up too date. Especially people that are trying too reach 75 for the first time.
 
I think a huge mistake SE made was (feel free to point out any flaws if this looks wrong) -
Lower TNL requirement, less xp:death loss, as well as xp:death loss CAP = people level faster

People levelling faster = higher-level stuff being in much more demand than before

To compensate, they should've (any combination) -
a. Made items of specific interest drop more often
b. Made monster that drop specific items appear more often
c. Allow more monsters to drop certain item
d. Create new monsters to drop certain item
e. Flat-out create a new way to obtain certain item (i.e. make it possible to synth Damascus Ingot. Maybe Darksteel+Orichalcum ingot? Or Give Luminicloth ana ctual use and make a crapton of them able to = shining or something? *shrug*)

Unfortunately, in most cases, they totally failed, or made the new way so outrageously tough that no one would ever bother to try. Sorry, but putting Venom Claw in a KS99 isn't gonna drop the cost of that too much SE. :roll:


Now that think about it, they did make a big move, but a wrong move - adding new stuff. New very, very high-level stuff. Or stuff so difficult to obtain that people will be eachother's throats for it and probably will destroys dozens of friendships for weeks-to-eternity over. This neat, new crap is fine, but really, more ways to get the original, neat, old crap, would help alot more.

Astral Earring - Great idea, but the second you're seen with this, someone's gonna scream "gilbuyer" or simply call you a moron

Cheiroptera Dagger - Great replace for Hawkers, too bad virtually no one even has this yet, and it's been in existance for how many MONTHS?

RSEarrings - Another great idea, especially since they add stats to what the race normally lacks...though, from what I hear, only one of the two earrings for your race drop each time from the ENM, if one drops at ALL, and since there's three people, doesn't that seem a bit...well, stupid?

"Charged" ammo-items - Gotten from the solo BC60s, these are also an excellent idea. Because we all know that by level 60, NINs haven't figured out how to keep hate, THFs use nothing but ranged attacks, SMNs only use magic-based BPs, WHMs need help with their underpowered heals, and RDMs always needto rest for MP. OH WAIT A SEC...
 
Here an outragous fix to our problem.

SE should triple the tax for the AH and doulbe cocobo fees for Jueno and triple them for towns.

Don't be to mean to me now. :D

*hides for cover*
 
I say we Hunt the Sheep down in the CoP areas, the hnm (Padfoot) or something, come once a day in groups. >.> Thf/rng yes please on hunting and selling for the 500k they are suppose to be.
 
Normally, Sabia, you have a nice level head, but it seems like your rage at players who can afford more than you is really escalating.

Sabia said:
Paying double the price on an item that has been steady is stupid cubs. 2.5 mil, sure why not but 5 mil?

Because of what having something like that means. It's something that sells only a few times a MONTH, and (correct me if I'm wrong) is NOT a 100% drop off of the last Padfoot. Put yourself in the seller's shoes for a second. You see an obviously good item that doesn't show up for sale but 3 or 4 times a month, there are none up, and the price is steady. Do you:

A: Sell the earring at 2.5 million so people like you won't bitch about others 'gouging' the AH
or
B: Bump the price to 3 million or so, knowing the rarity is low and thus makes potential buyers willing to pay more?

If you chose A, well, bully for you, but you lost out on gil your customers were willing to pay. High-value NM drops aren't fucking Wal-Mart, they're gameplay boosters and status symbols and people, GILBUYER OR NOT, are going to keep paying more and more until they've hit a ceiling. Honestly, I think Astral Earring could go to 6 or 7 million.

Sure, If SE wants to combat gil selling and gil buying why doesn't it just ad some more RA/EX gear like the Assult Jerkin, Moldy earring etc? Make it a bitch and a half to quest for but at least you get a fair shot at it.

So instead of paying into the player base via the AH, you pay into the player base to get them to help you quest/camp a NM? Example: Voyager Sallet. Please find me a full alliance of people who'd camp a 24 hour spawn that drops nothing but rare/ex stuff in a CoP capped area with no expected compensation. I'll let you get right on that. Also, the Brown Belt quest. Not rare/ex, but you try telling a Monk who's spent 3 or 4 days straight camping Morbolger that what he's doing is a good thing because it discourages gilbuying? And don't get me started on Black Belt.

You can't start crafting anymore because of Power levelers buying up materials for more than what the synths are worth,

It's ALWAYS been this way. Except now Materal A and Product B just cost 2x more gil than they used to.

not everyone is an NM hunter

Agreed, and OMG SHOCKER UP THE POOPER I still carve out a nice life for myself in this game. I'd say I'm sorry that you haven't, but at the same time you've spent how many days camping Padfoot for 0 gain?

and frankly if SE wants to attract some more people to the game and bring old ones back I think this is something they need to re-evaluate. This game is more like a job than my actual job is at this point.

And here comes the persecution complex. Everyone's out to get you, Sabia. Really. Nobody wants you to advance in this game and all of the items that are juuuuuust out of your reach are being intentionally inflated JUST to get you pissed off and write flames about how you can't get them and how it must be the fault of gilbuyers and not a flaw in your ability to make gil.

It looks like the system is playing you, not the other way around. I'd look into righting that ship if you want to start enjoying this game again.

Good for you, you got all your gear on your monk to 75, would you like a cookie for it? I mean please.

Damn, ya burned me. Success stories in-game deserve disdain and anger. You're right, and I'm sorry I learned how to make gil and you didn't. This is obviously another SE plot to get you to quit.
 
deathsvengeance said:
:o Omi

He sure did jack that price up!

And Falsey, I think he was doing that to you because I wasn't standing infront of him topless that time! :lol:

That was my 2nd time camping padfoot, when I brought you that was my 3rd. What he would do was get a mob, and fight it on top of me. I then started to do the same, but we all know how a BLM solos right? Bind > Nuke ;) ;) ;)!
 
No Cubs, I have some pretty nice gear and I worked my ass for it. All elemental staves, Apollo, Steppe Stone, Austere Gear etc. I don't mind paying and saving lord knows I've done it the ENTIRE TIME I"VE BEEN PLAYING! Granted I don't have all my HQ elemental staves but I'm currently working on saving for my next one. Do I mind the prices of HQ Elemental staves being 1 mil each? Nope, they're worth it. It's when shit triples in price that really pisses me off because 90% of the time it's just not worth the cash people fork out for it. Did I think a vermy cloak was worth (based on stats) 1-2 mil gil? hell yeah, do I think it's worth 5...well no. What pisses me off is working my ass off for stuff I really don't think it worth it just because I'm expected to have it.

I think my austere gear was well worth the investment, same with my elemental staves and steppe stone. Don't talk to me like I'm bitching about people who have more money than me, I'm not - I'm bitching about people who have more money than I do and spend it like idiots forcing the rest of the game population to match their bid. Congrats...you have TONS of gil, but last time I checked your comment on your monk was completely irrelivant in this argument. I jsut saw it as a way for you to show off. If you were buying all your gear on your monk and paid double the price on Kote just because, then that would of made your comment actually belong in this argument.

There's shit in this game that's worth the money. HQ Staves, Serket Rings, Elemental Torques, Hauby's, Scorp Harnesses etc then you have crap that's not.

Oh and about the Camping for RA/EX if you make some good friends in this game it won't be a problem. I wasn't home for work but I fully offered my services to Lanien on his Ose hunt and he had tons of friends willing to help out. It's a community driven game and if you're not a dick you shouldn't have problems getting help.
 
PS: this argument isn't about the Astral Earring, I know I'm not going to get it unless a Padfoot I claim drops it and that doesn't bother me. I just used that peice of gear as an example because it's something I check on a regular basis to see who got the drop and the price hike was so incredibly stupid.
 
I don't see how HQ staves are really worth it. I mean its just a +2 instead of a +1 on the elemental tip, right? No plus while healing for dark staff, etc.

Ok wait, let me rephrase that. I don't see how HQ staves are worth it to a white mage. I saved up a bunch of moolah and went to go check it out.. but I couldn't bring myself to buy it.

As far as shit like the astral ring and ether earring and what not's prices going up.. fuck it. After I see something that I really want go over 2 mil, then I don't want it anymore. I have yet to see a piece of equipment thats really worth it for me to blow all my money on. Astral earring is only what, another 5mp off of what I have now? Even when it was 1.5 mil for that extra mp.. I couldn't justify buying it. I can't even justify camping padfoot at this time for any other reason than to sell the damn thing.
I say leave some things like that to the people who want to spend their money on something trivial. I know there are a lot of items in the game that are expensive and worth it, but I don't think that there are very many of them.

Am I pissed about the inflation? Yeah.

Do I let it bother me for more than a day? Not really. F it.

Play the game. Don't let the game play you, right?
 
Panda said:
I don't see how HQ staves are really worth it. I mean its just a +2 instead of a +1 on the elemental tip, right? No plus while healing for dark staff, etc.

Ok wait, let me rephrase that. I don't see how HQ staves are worth it to a white mage. I saved up a bunch of moolah and went to go check it out.. but I couldn't bring myself to buy it.

As far as shit like the astral ring and ether earring and what not's prices going up.. fuck it. After I see something that I really want go over 2 mil, then I don't want it anymore. I have yet to see a piece of equipment thats really worth it for me to blow all my money on. Astral earring is only what, another 5mp off of what I have now? Even when it was 1.5 mil for that extra mp.. I couldn't justify buying it. I can't even justify camping padfoot at this time for any other reason than to sell the damn thing.
I say leave some things like that to the people who want to spend their money on something trivial. I know there are a lot of items in the game that are expensive and worth it, but I don't think that there are very many of them.

Am I pissed about the inflation? Yeah.

Do I let it bother me for more than a day? Not really. F it.

Play the game. Don't let the game play you, right?

HQ staves help SMN and BLM most I would say, RDM aswell now that I think of it. It alows a BLM to do/drain/aspir for more damage/hp/mp. It allows a SMN to keep the avatar out for less mp use. As for a WHM, if you only get the +1 light staff, youre golden! :P
 
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