You don't have to cheat to be sucessfull at end game!!!

[Elemmire]

Potency is based on raw stats, so a BLM will have the same potency as RDM. Accuracy is another matter though, and while anyone can land an enfeeble, there is a noticable difference in success rate on mobs that have ~20-80% success rates. On these mobs, higher Enfeebling Skill wins...

you think that.. but from what I've seen, personal experience, people with lower enfeebling skill has had the same success rate as my higher enfeebling skills.. people with as low as 250 having the same success rate with my 320ish (depending on gear) and even with right staves.. well.. it gets annoying.. :\ and I do know about the potency, I'm more annoyed with the success rate I keep seing being the same.. -_- SE needs to fix that I think.. RDM was meant to specialize in enfeebles, and by damn, we should be the best of the best :\ or I DEMAND EQUAL NUKE POWA AS BLM XD

 

[Mephosis]

hellstorm, again:

I actually said the Errant Houppelande is one of the pieces that can be replaced by Crimson Scale Mail seeing as Yigit has been introduced, albeit after I quit. It is certainly a good piece to use when nuking due to the INT bonus, though for low resist mobs it is likely the extra stats it provides will make only a slight difference (if any) to enfeebling spells; in which case Dalmatica is more suitable. Errant or Mahatma can’t be completely ruled out though, as it still has –Enmity. I’m generalizing with a lot of this and different situations may require different setups, though if you really needed the stats you could simply swap out other slots. Oh, and there are still better pieces for solo than W.body.

That said, Crimson to RDM is not as Osode is to BRD. I don’t pretend to know a lot about BRD, but the –Enmity on Errant and the exact same stats (even more on Mahatma!) would seem to make it more useful for end-game encounters. And no, meriting is not end-game.

More on Dalmatica; even if Refresh and Haste don’t take up much MP, if you’re casting on quite a few players it may take up more than you’re getting back through Refresh/Ballad/whatever; Dalmatica helps to lighten this. You’re not necessarily ‘wasting’ MP by not using Convert every 10 minutes, in fact I find the opposite is true and players prefer to prolong each convert as much as possible so it can be used when actually needed; it’s not as if you’re going to dump your MP every 10 mins to do this. This practice is different while meriting of course, but again … not end-game!

With regards to MDB: I have not mentioned Magic Defense Bonus in any of my posts, and personally I don’t consider it to be a big factor in using the item; I would use Dalmatica for the Refresh alone. Despite this, it still has some use on certain attacks, whereas –Breath damage % has almost none. –3 Enmity too, is actually useful, whereas -10% to breath damage is not a plus in any way; unless you suffer from enormous amounts of L2P and are constantly standing in breath zone.

I’m sure some of this has been repeated now… try actually reading the post, you might take in more than a few words.

Edit: imisible isn't even a fucking word. l2stopmakingshitup?

 

[Bajaratt]

gogo whm mind

I don't stack a shitload of +mnd on whm, the only reason I even have ny +mnd is because it comes on blessed pants/hands. That was only with about +12 mnd, I guarantee that Kriist and Damita both had more +mnd for their enfeebles than I did.

 

[Elemmire]

I don't stack a shitload of +mnd on whm, the only reason I even have ny +mnd is because it comes on blessed pants/hands. That was only with about +12 mnd, I guarantee that Kriist and Damita both had more +mnd for their enfeebles than I did.

a good RDM should

 

[Bajaratt]

a good RDM should

I know, that's why I'm sure they were doing that. I was just saying that they would have a shitload more +mnd, not to mention probably 60 or more enfeebling skill than me, so hellstorm's an idiot thinking that my "whm mnd" is the reason behind it. I got lucky twice in a row, that's all, and managed to stick my spell over two red mages.

 

[Elemmire]

I know, that's why I'm sure they were doing that. I was just saying that they would have a shitload more +mnd, not to mention probably 60 or more enfeebling skill than me, so hellstorm's an idiot thinking that my "whm mnd" is the reason behind it. I got lucky twice in a row, that's all, and managed to stick my spell over two red mages.

also specifically since MND doesn't aid in it landing, just in its potency (as courtney has said before). I just wish SE would fix things.. cause everytime I did Gods or some high resist NM or something I noticed a WHM and BLM landing the same percentage as me.. :\ then again.. I have the worst luck in the world >.>

 

[Damita]

also specifically since MND doesn't aid in it landing, just in its potency (as courtney has said before). I just wish SE would fix things.. cause everytime I did Gods or some high resist NM or something I noticed a WHM and BLM landing the same percentage as me.. :\ then again.. I have the worst luck in the world >.>

Durh Elem... Hello single digit lots!:spiteful:

But then again... You have a Joyeuse... h34r:

 

[Elemmire]

you don't? XD I got mine sooo long ago made Artem Hailie Ziox and others come help was a fun fight

and helo thar 0 lots is more like it for me

 

[neophytal]

you think that.. but from what I've seen, personal experience, people with lower enfeebling skill has had the same success rate as my higher enfeebling skills.. people with as low as 250 having the same success rate with my 320ish (depending on gear) and even with right staves.. well.. it gets annoying.. :\ and I do know about the potency, I'm more annoyed with the success rate I keep seing being the same.. -_- SE needs to fix that I think.. RDM was meant to specialize in enfeebles, and by damn, we should be the best of the best :\ or I DEMAND EQUAL NUKE POWA AS BLM XD

you also had extremely gimp gear because you wanted to fund your precious excalibur.

HELLO ELECTRUM RINGS.

 

[Elemmire]

XD lol cause spending what? 3 mil on 10 more MP was a great idea right? idiot... and I didn't have the 20mil for a serket right.. I did have INT and MND rings too but usually just macroed those in when needed.

 

[neophytal]

didnt have money for gear that mattered but you wanted to waste on a relic.. gg ;;

 

[Elemmire]

10 MP doesn't matter when it was easily made up other ways >.> it was money I didn't have, and if you didn't notice, I didn't spend much on my relic at all.. most of my coins I got from dynamis pants as the autodrop or from friends giving me them for free or a really freakin cheap price. Why? cause they didn't care about the little gil they could make from em but the help.. I only did the first upgrade anyways, I could've got the second upgrade done and be on my way with the third if I had played more and if I hadn't donated so many coins to Cythe's relic. Originally Dynamis pants was planned that it would back up relic upgrade completely for one person than another and so on but that got changed as greed came around.. I got tired of greed in this game so I quit.. come back I see greed is just the same and worse some places.. at least WoW you could have fun with shit and avoid the greedy (at least the time I played I was able to..).. I barely spent over a mil on my relic, to be honest, lol.. that was hardly enough to get the ZOMG 10 MORE MP!! I opted for saying "fuck the 10 MP" and got MND and INT rings instead (I forget what they were called now.. those +5 ones... hell I forgot what electrum rings were called until you mentioned it XD)

Edit: oh, and 2nd upgrade could happen if I wanted to get 14 100 bynes now.. the sword is sitting with the goblin with all the other upgrade items.. *shrugs* I've easily won enough 100 coins between all my dynamises for that.. funny though XD I won the most when I was giving them away to help another's upgrade

 

[neophytal]

lol.. all those 100 coins but wanted to save them for a silly item instead of alot of items that you could really use.

how was the mp made up? surely its not cause you're elvaan. or because you had really hq mp earrings. hmmm oh well, whatever..

im just making a point to say, that, dont talk about resist rates and other people being successful as you when you didnt have gear that really let you excel or do anything all that special.

 

[Elemmire]

You're an idiot though.. when it came to enfeebling (success, not potencywhich is what MND and INT do) I had more than anyone I know at the time I played. And enfeebling macro. I had about 324 and would have had more if I was windurst... I also would have much more by now cause by now I woulda had my duelist chapeau. Tell me, success rate based on Enfeebling alone.. why was a BLM or WHM with far less enfeebling magic having the same success rate?

about the only "gimped" thing about me was missing that whole "zomg 10 MP" for the rings.. and if you didn't read.. the 100 coins I gave to my friend Cythe to help him along.. why? Cause I'm not a selfish bitch like others in this game and really wanted to see a fully upgraded relic on the NA side for our server.. and I like helping a friend out.

Edit: Just admit, when it comes to enfeebles landing it's a lot about luck and not enough about the skill.

 

[Uzor]

you also had extremely gimp gear because you wanted to fund your precious excalibur.

HELLO ELECTRUM RINGS.

I use electrum =( With other rings I get more MP then HP =(

 

[Bigboy]

Edit: Just admit, when it comes to enfeebles landing it's a lot about luck and not enough about the skill.

Wow, sucks to be you.

 

[neophytal]

I use electrum =( With other rings I get more MP then HP =(

at least you have a reason ;( i saw her hp/mp before. lol

Wow, sucks to be you.

lol but im the idiot for not relying on luck ;( /sigh

haha..elemmire calling someone an idiot is like a retard calling someone mentally challenged.

omg my stoneskin lasts through 3 wings!! -elemmire

 

[Elemmire]

pfft.. my MP and HP were about the same when I had my best gear (and merits in). It was off by.. maybe 100? at most 200? something like that. So usually around 900 MP and 1000 HP when I had the MP <-> HP kinda stuff

and I know my stoneskin has lasted through at the very least 2 wings >.> I've seen it last 3 before.

I know you hate being wrong, Neo.. but admit it.. when it comes to enfeebling magic.. enfeebling skill doesn't necessarily mean as much as it should. It helps.. but it doesn't really help the success rate as much as it should if you're near 100 more enfeebling magic higher than the others. Hell.. I've seen a WHM land enfeebles on gods and they barely were over 200 enfeebling magic where as the rest of the RDMs weren't having much luck (RDMs like GodofDeath, myself, and others in NH).

 

[neophytal]

im not going to attempt to have an intellectual conversation with someone who claims their stoneskin has lasted 3 wings. im sorry. lol

 

[Claxton]

lol.. all those 100 coins but wanted to save them for a silly item instead of alot of items that you could really use.

how was the mp made up? surely its not cause you're elvaan. or because you had really hq mp earrings. hmmm oh well, whatever..

im just making a point to say, that, dont talk about resist rates and other people being successful as you when you didnt have gear that really let you excel or do anything all that special.

She makes up for that MP with XD.