UFO kidnap an Photographer who took a pic of "UFO" ship

There I'm talking about 3 different E.T. 1 of which considers our species royalty, and the other 2 are screwing with us.
 
I'm going to ask the obvious.

Are you talking about the aliens you mentioned in the other thread about 2012?
 
Anttaru said:
Depending on which species one encounters. If you're not mentally prepared to encounter either of the 2 i mentioned. You'll either have a heart attack, or fall just short of having one.

Without video games and movies, a good number of us would open fire at them. They are thousands of years ahead of us in technology, they know things we don't know, they know and understand us very well, and they are the biggest liars you'll ever come across if you ever do get to see one.
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So... wait what?

Uzor said:
I'm going to ask the obvious.

Are you talking about the aliens you mentioned in the other thread about 2012?
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Probably.

/popcorn!
 
This thread was moved from Reality Sinks in, to the Lounge. That is a matter of personal opinion. The original post is based off of a televised announcement with content that's hard to believe. Still the video was really released for real.

On a side note I don't think E.T.'s will abduct someone for capturing a snap shot of them and reporting it. If they go too far while disturbing the way they do. It will disrupt their goals. I don't believe the video in the OP is a genuine case.

Uzor said:
I'm going to ask the obvious.

Are you talking about the aliens you mentioned in the other thread about 2012?
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It's difficult to be sure to be honest.

The Sumerian and Mayan were not allowed to depict the true form of their Gods. The Mayans in particular did worship Serpent Gods from the heavens. ( For those who don't know, Heaven being outer space, not some cloud world in a blue sky, as many are taught to depict Heaven to be so).

The Aliens that screw with us are the Reptiles from the constellation Draco (Also known as Reptiods), And the Greys. (Interdimensional beings). In modern days, of all Aliens Greys are considered to be a Myth. True say it's the Greys that made the most literal contact in recent history. People around the world who claim to have encountered the Grey's all say the same things about them.

The ones that consider us royalty are called Lyrian Andromedians. They are originally from a planet in the constellation Lyra. On Andromeda there co-exists i think it was 2 or 4 separate species of Alien races, one of them being the Pleiadian.

Andromedians from Lyra look like us except they have blue/bluish-white skin tones. They are far ahead of us in technology and are of the 4th Dimension. Like the other 2 E.T. i mentioned they are psychic and communicate with one another mentally. (It's been said that they even stand around in a circle when communicating in groups.) They also have vocal cords as well. They are said to have difficulty understanding us. We sound slow to them but when they focus, they can speak our languages and communicate with us (Provoding they learned the language).

Lyrian Andromedians have emotions, but don't express them as much as we do. Yet. Their civilization is much closer to one another compared to ours.
Our civilization here on Earth is really fucked. We're living in a society where it's considered rude to look at someone in public for too long. 2 seconds is long enough to alarm or intimidate a stranger). We're rigged to ignore strangers because we're too busy being conscious of what others think of us. We are far apart from one another, which dampens our progress. The Money system (Designed by Reptiles) is a form of control, and not a form of order. Not being able to afford materials, or not worth taking financial risks is what keeps us from discovering groundbreaking technology. Scientists need to play by the book or they will lose their careers. Loosing your job is a common fear for everyone who has a career.

In this world, if you Invest you're time into something that would go against the Laws of physics, you'll go against skeptics of the worst type. A Machine that goes against the first laws of Thermal Dynamics and generates 0 point energy, (or Free energy) is against the forces that control us. Harnessing free energy would cost the largest companies in the world many trillions of dollars. There is no real way to put a bill on a machine that can generate electricity without the need for fossil fuels. It benefits those in power to suppress these kinds of technology. Inventors that claim to have made such devices in the past have been killed (Stan Myer, ran his combustion engine in his car using hydro cells.)

A free energy machine would put more money in the pockets of consumers giving us other things to focus it on. Still money is a constraint, but the more of it we have, the more experimental we'll be. All and all. Without a currency based system, we would make more things. What separates us from one another is the same force that made us reliant on Money. We've reached a point where no one will work for free, and find no reward in being a part of something that can change the world.


This system is designed to hold us back from moving into 4th dimension. No one can say what is true, yet we separately say what is and even what is not.

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Just about every extra terrestrial race all believe we're spiritual beings we'll carry on and advance spiritually and physically. But our advancement all depends on our mind set. What the world believes is what we're told is correct, and what we read in textbooks. Science and Philosophy should be one in the same, but they are not. Science revolves around what can be proven. But it also creates an environment of fear for some inventors that believe in, and even proven, what they have achieved or set out to accomplish.
 
Excalibur:

THERE IS FAR TOO MUCH BAD GANJA IN THIS THREAD, DO YOU AGREE?



Anttaru:

Discount that the world has seen more advances in medicine, technology, and .... hell, everything in the past 150 years than has been seen in recorded history? All with monetary systems driving them too?

Shame on you, sir.
 
Anttaru said:
The Money system (Designed by Reptiles) is a form of control, and not a form of order. Not being able to afford materials, or not worth taking financial risks is what keeps us from discovering groundbreaking technology. Scientists need to play by the book or they will lose their careers. Loosing your job is a common fear for everyone who has a career.
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The money system is in no way designed by aliens. As I assune you haven't actually read up on how the monetary system is created, I will hope to teach you something today.

The monetary system is based upon trade. You could trade, say, a knife from one village with a spear from another village. Or, say some seed for some fish. Later on, when humans started to create objects with iron etc. people could make more efficient tools. And thus, they also got more expensive. However, humans were also better at making things. Jewelry and other things a village do became a common thing to trade between villages. One village could have good pots to carry things in, while another village had nice jewelry. Eventually, as villages grew larger, people were specialized in different things within the village. You had the blacksmith, for example, that could smelt iron etc. to make small coins which had a set value to make trading easier for the villagers. For example, you could hand in gold to the blacksmith, and you'd get a bill to pick the coins up later. However, people discovered that a bill, too, was good to trade with. So instead of picking up the coins and then trade, people handed the bill over to someone else, and they could pick the gold coins up if they so wish.

This is how the bill was invented, btw. Even now, the bank of Sweden (And I believe almost every bank in the world) have as much gold as they have bills. Thus, it balances the economy out, as the value of the bills is directly influenced by the value of gold (which is also why you can read the value of 1 oz. of gold in the newspaper). Until recently, every bill had letters on it stating that it could be traded in for its value in gold. The monetary system itself has evolved from the old trading system, but its based on the same principles. And the bill still serves the same function. Its only a paper bill stating how many coins you can trade it in for.

So no, reptile aliens did not create our monetary system.

In this world, if you Invest you're time into something that would go against the Laws of physics, you'll go against skeptics of the worst type. A Machine that goes against the first laws of Thermal Dynamics and generates 0 point energy, (or Free energy) is against the forces that control us. Harnessing free energy would cost the largest companies in the world many trillions of dollars. There is no real way to put a bill on a machine that can generate electricity without the need for fossil fuels. It benefits those in power to suppress these kinds of technology. Inventors that claim to have made such devices in the past have been killed (Stan Myer, ran his combustion engine in his car using hydro cells.)
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While I don't know how things work in the states, Sweden constantly research in ways to increase electricity efficiency, and want to find complete replacement for fossil fuels. Hydro cells is something researched in a lot. I do, however, believe that you're right with most companies in the US not wanting research to be done, as oil is a good source of income. Other then performing research on making wind power more effective, hydro cells and sun cells to be more effective, Sweden is also doing research on making the loss of electricity in each stage to lessen. If I remember right, 80% of the electricity produced is lost as heat, 90% is lost in the power lines, and 10% is lost in the household as heat. The reason for this is that Sweden is one of the leading countries in preserving the country, and by lowering the amount of electricity wasted, it would aid in this. Hence why we consider sun cells and hydro cells an important part in reaching this goal to reduce the amount of greenhouse gasses released.

For example, the state of Sweden have decided that all public busses in Stockholm (and probable outside as well) should be driven by Methane, or preferably something even better if a better alternative is found. While Methane by itself is considered a greenhouse gas, the byproduct by burning it together with O2 is better then using gasoline itself. The formula for that is CH4 + 2O2 → CO2 + 2H2O. While it still releases CO2 (bad), it also produces water (good). Additionally, our government encourages people to use public transportation or bicycles instead of cars to reduce the amount of greenhouse gasses released. Wherever you want to go in Stockholm, you can bicycle there, as we have a separate bicycling road besides almost every walking pavement or road. If you so chose, you can pretty much walk anywhere as well. Long-distant travels within Sweden is also encouraged by taking the train instead of flying or taking the car. People are also encouraged pretty much everywhere in Sweden to sort their garbage, and fast food stores are encouraging more people to eat more healthy food by giving healthier menu options. One of our fast food chains called "Max", even have low-GI Burgers, so that people that wish to lose weight can still eat their food without having to worry about gaining weight. (GI stands for Glycemic Index, and can be read about here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycemic_index)

My point is, you make it sound like those large companies control the world, and everyone want to keep oil and fossil fuel because they are money-greeding whores. A great deal of people in Sweden (including our government) would LOVE to find an alternative source of power, and a lot of people donate money towards that cause.

A free energy machine would put more money in the pockets of consumers giving us other things to focus it on. Still money is a constraint, but the more of it we have, the more experimental we'll be. All and all. Without a currency based system, we would make more things. What separates us from one another is the same force that made us reliant on Money. We've reached a point where no one will work for free, and find no reward in being a part of something that can change the world.
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While that is true, currency also helps evolving the world more then you may think. Currency actually drives technology forward. Had we not had currency, we would not be where we are today purely technology speaking. Without an economy, large corporations would not aim to better their products in order to make more money. The human species is extremely greedy by nature. While it is true that the economy is the result of that, it is also what drives us forward. If mankind wasn't greedy and didn't care if they live better lives then they live now, they wouldn't aim to make life any better. Thus, technology wouldn't go forward at the same rate it is today, as people wouldn't see a need for technology to move forward. Sure, technology would move forward, but it wouldn't go forward at the rate it is.


Just about every extra terrestrial race all believe we're spiritual beings we'll carry on and advance spiritually and physically. But our advancement all depends on our mind set. What the world believes is what we're told is correct, and what we read in textbooks. Science and Philosophy should be one in the same, but they are not. Science revolves around what can be proven. But it also creates an environment of fear for some inventors that believe in, and even proven, what they have achieved or set out to accomplish.
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Only ignorant people believe what we're told is right. The smart people find out for themselves what is right. While I'm not going to bash religion, I do believe you are religious as told in the earlier thread. So I find this rather hypocritical coming from you, as you believe God exists simply because you are told he exists.

And no, you're wrong. That science revolves around what can be proven is a myth. Science revolves around looking for ways to DISPROVE something. Simply proving something is right is not science, as that only proves something is correct under that specific condition. However, disproving something means that said theory is incorrect, and the scientists can then either find a new theory, or rewrite it to fit the new conditions. As soon as something is disproved, it means that the theory is wrong. Thus, it is scientifically impossible to prove something is right.

Science revolves around theories, nothing else.
 
No I'm not a scientologist. Although i do admire them. Everything they are about is self improvement and world peace. So what if they believe in Aliens. Unless the existence of E.T.'s are proven or dis-proven, it would be sheepish to ridicule them.

Tristam Green said:
Anttaru:

Discount that the world has seen more advances in medicine, technology, and .... hell, everything in the past 150 years than has been seen in recorded history? All with monetary systems driving them too?

Shame on you, sir.
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Shame for what ? Thinking that fossil fuel as a constant expense slows down our potential for advancement. In many ways it does.

Oil caused a boom for our population and technology. Without Oil, all this technology we enjoy will stop. There's negative and positive in everything. Sure we still advance. But let's not forget who we pick up after, and who'll have to pick up after us. Your question is more of an assumption than anything. Lets not assume i said we haven't advanced.
 
may I inquire as to exactly where we have acquired the exact descriptions and names, social patterns, and such of these E.T.s?

Where does one manage to come across this info? did like, one come down and speak to us in public, describe it's life, and I missed the video broadcast of it or something?

If not, there is no credit to the descriptions of these E.T.s.
 
I believe in them...ever since some were caught on tape in my city -_-....

I've always believed in them I just didn't want to convince myself they were true til I saw that vid, that caught two.
Wait til you see something...that convinces you too non-believers,...trust me.

Kinda looks like the patterns that are left on some corn fields by ufos. He probably got teleported by it lol
 
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Anttaru said:
Shame for what ? Thinking that fossil fuel as a constant expense slows down our potential for advancement. In many ways it does.

Oil caused a boom for our population and technology. Without Oil, all this technology we enjoy will stop. There's negative and positive in everything. Sure we still advance. But let's not forget who we pick up after, and who'll have to pick up after us. Your question is more of an assumption than anything. Lets not assume i said we haven't advanced.
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Fact. Oil != Money. Money is legal tender. Oil as legal tender would be akin to wampum.

Oil didn't do jack for our population or technology. The heat it produced when burned, however, did. Steam engines, turbines, etc etc all powered the early Industrial Revolutions of Europe and America.

Those are the facts.
 
Uzor said:
While I don't know how things work in the states,
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I'm Canadian. Just saying.

Uzor said:
Sweden constantly research in ways to increase electricity efficiency, and want to find complete replacement for fossil fuels. Hydro cells is something researched in a lot. I do, however, believe that you're right with most companies in the US not wanting research to be done, as oil is a good source of income.
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Only the oil industry. Maybe the government as well since they profit from oil. I'm fully aware of how Sweden is in comparison to the U.S.
Due to issues in the past, regarding inventors and free energy machines. It's known throughout all online communities that revolves around the pursuit of over unity and or free energy devices, that Sweden is the promised land when it comes to writing a Patent for such a thing. It's also a good idea for the inventor of such a device to move to Sweden.

Still, look up "Stan Meyer" Water Fuel cell. Plans on how to make this technology is all over the internet and there are people who successfully emulated this technology. Water is a richer fuel source than oil.

Recently on the news I seen George Bush Jr. Promoting what appeared to be a Gas pump with the word Hydrogen written on it. I'm curious to know how much do they plan on selling water for, and when will they do this ?


Uzor said:
Other then performing research on making wind power more effective, hydro cells and sun cells to be more effective, Sweden is also doing research on making the loss of electricity in each stage to lessen. If I remember right, 80% of the electricity produced is lost as heat, 90% is lost in the power lines, and 10% is lost in the household as heat. The reason for this is that Sweden is one of the leading countries in preserving the country, and by lowering the amount of electricity wasted, it would aid in this. Hence why we consider sun cells and hydro cells an important part in reaching this goal to reduce the amount of greenhouse gasses released.

For example, the state of Sweden have decided that all public busses in Stockholm (and probable outside as well) should be driven by Methane, or preferably something even better if a better alternative is found. While Methane by itself is considered a greenhouse gas, the byproduct by burning it together with O2 is better then using gasoline itself. The formula for that is CH4 + 2O2 → CO2 + 2H2O. While it still releases CO2 (bad), it also produces water (good). Additionally, our government encourages people to use public transportation or bicycles instead of cars to reduce the amount of greenhouse gasses released. Wherever you want to go in Stockholm, you can bicycle there, as we have a separate bicycling road besides almost every walking pavement or road. If you so chose, you can pretty much walk anywhere as well. Long-distant travels within Sweden is also encouraged by taking the train instead of flying or taking the car. People are also encouraged pretty much everywhere in Sweden to sort their garbage, and fast food stores are encouraging more people to eat more healthy food by giving healthier menu options. One of our fast food chains called "Max", even have low-GI Burgers, so that people that wish to lose weight can still eat their food without having to worry about gaining weight. (GI stands for Glycemic Index, and can be read about here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycemic_index)
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Believe it or not, healthy environmental practices are world wide.

Uzor said:
My point is, you make it sound like those large companies control the world, and everyone want to keep oil and fossil fuel because they are money-greeding whores.
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The large industry (Namely big oil) does control the world. They remain unmatched in this field. Ever see the documentary "Who killed the Electric Car" ? They were made by General Motors, they were very fast, and cheap to run. Even Mel Gibson loved his. He said he felt like Batman when he accelerated his. The point is, everyone who had one loved them. They do devalue oil. Not completely, but by a whole lot, considering they ran on battery charges.

Why were these cars recalled and scraped without any given reason ? I don't see where i made it seem like everyone wants to keep oil and fossil fuel, when i flat out said Free Energy machines would have us progress much better. Feel free to quote me and show my where i made it seem like everyone wants to hold onto oil. According to the documentary i just mentioned. I'd say General Motors WANTED to be more green with the Electric car, but obviously Big Oil had a hissy fit.

Uzor said:
A great deal of people in Sweden (including our government) would LOVE to find an alternative source of power, and a lot of people donate money towards that cause.
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Here there is an energy provider called "Bull Frog" (I think they were called that, i don't feel the need to look them up) Yeah anyway, they will bill you for green electricity. Solar power and Wind turbine. The down side is they are double the price.

Uzor said:
While that is true, currency also helps evolving the world more then you may think. Currency actually drives technology forward. Had we not had currency, we would not be where we are today purely technology speaking. Without an economy, large corporations would not aim to better their products in order to make more money. The human species is extremely greedy by nature. While it is true that the economy is the result of that, it is also what drives us forward. If mankind wasn't greedy and didn't care if they live better lives then they live now, they wouldn't aim to make life any better. Thus, technology wouldn't go forward at the same rate it is today, as people wouldn't see a need for technology to move forward. Sure, technology would move forward, but it wouldn't go forward at the rate it is.
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Like i said, no one will work for free. But fact still remains, expenses are a constraint for the majority. People hardly have time, and no money to manifest their ideas. My invention personal invention won't be surfacing for another 2 years or so, that is due to the price i must pay to build a prototype, failure is still an option, but id rather go down trying. If it works or not, I'll be happy to show it off to everyone.



Uzor said:
Only ignorant people believe what we're told is right. The smart people find out for themselves what is right. While I'm not going to bash religion, I do believe you are religious as told in the earlier thread. So I find this rather hypocritical coming from you, as you believe God exists simply because you are told he exists.
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I was born into the Catholic religion. I believed in it in it's manner for mostly all of my life. Like you Uzor I've studied all religions, but unlike you I've actually practiced them.

I believe there is a highest. I believe what religion sees as God, is compreised of 2 different E.T.s I come to the conclusion that ET's do exist because of our own History. What ancient civilizations know and have known before we did. They knew about the solar system before we did. We need some serious high tech gear to be able to all that shit out there. much of it is believing what is heard. That cannot be helped.

I've also had spiritual experiences while in deep meditation. My goal was to achieve OBE. Although i did not achieve this. I've achieved someone other. I have good reason to believe we all have souls. Even you Uzor will carry on when you die. Hypocrite, i am not.

Uzor said:
And no, you're wrong. That science revolves around what can be proven is a myth.
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Oh really ? So Science believes in God then ?

Uzor said:
Science revolves around looking for ways to DISPROVE something. Simply proving something is right is not science, as that only proves something is correct under that specific condition. However, disproving something means that said theory is incorrect, and the scientists can then either find a new theory, or rewrite it to fit the new conditions. As soon as something is disproved, it means that the theory is wrong. Thus, it is scientifically impossible to prove something is right.
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Science only involves what is, and what we understand. Theories are just out the door with science. When something is proven, it becomes a part of what we call science.

Uzor said:
Science revolves around theories, nothing else.
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Like many thing, or all technology rather. You're computer is not just a theory. It's working it's magic right in front of you and it's very real. This is science.
 
Ant, you need to stop turning threads into your opinionated arguments with all these damn tl;dr posts. It just kills the threads man.
 
Anttaru said:
No I'm not a scientologist. Although i do admire them. Everything they are about is self improvement and world peace. So what if they believe in Aliens. Unless the existence of E.T.'s are proven or dis-proven, it would be sheepish to ridicule them.
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I'm not so sure about scientologists I don't think I would admire them so much. I remember hearing the creator of the religion being quoted for something like "The best way to make money is to start your own religion." or something along the lines of that. But hey don't get me wrong anything is possible it's just improbable at times.
 
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