1337 pere wants a thf knife o.O details inside

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No I know you wouldn't, but if you did that would be worth paying 55 million to see. Heck I'd have paid 5 million gil to see Nalia throw down in this thread.
 
Daveman said:
We had a vote on what to do overall, your system seems fair enough, but it's overly complicated, and 95% of the people would keep the money anyways, so this bascially would of ended up being an "all or nothing".
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If 95% of the people chose to keep the money and run, wouldn't that be majority rule?

Pere, you say "I's 55 million gil." Dave has assured us he has kept records of all the runs.

Again I ask, If somone wants to/needs to quit the shell, will they get thier share of the gil that they earned while they were helping you?
 
If the shell picks the disburse all gil? We can do that, yes. With ease. If they pick upgrading a relic? No, probably can't do that.
 
You're dodging the question.

If somone needs to/wants to quit quit the shell, would they get thier share of the gil they earned while they helped you?
 
its his shell he can do whatever he wants with it.


and not everyone is driven by gil. some just like the fact that they are in a high level linkshell and get to play end-game-type stuff.
 
in other words phraust no they wouldn't, pere would fuck them out of it. If they don't wana run with him he isn't going to cader to them in any way. Even if they'd been against the thf knife and wanted the gil instead he wouldn't give it to them.
 
passions said:
in other words phraust no they wouldn't, pere would fuck them out of it. If they don't wana run with him he isn't going to cader to them in any way. Even if they'd been against the thf knife and wanted the gil instead he wouldn't give it to them.
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All due respect; I wasn't asking you. Please let this answer come from one of the governing bodies of that particular LS.
 
Phraust, your arguments seem like you're just poking at our ls for no reason. I mean, what if a member of any linkshell quits, don't they get a share out of the "relic weapon" coin stash?

We haven't decided what to do with extra money yet, for all we know we'll build up enough coins to just upgrade a weapon for a member we can trust to stay with us. (we're going to just stash coins now that we don't have a specific item the shell is trying to buy).
 
Tell me why someone who leaves now in the building phase deserves to be rewarded when we've probably already given them a piece of relic that would have been better-given to someone with a longer tenure?

No, relic is reward enough in the building phase. If they leave now, I let them go, and I honestly have nothing to give them. Again, if they want their cut, more than likely it'd be a check for 230,000 gil. Whoop de friggin doo.
 
I think he's getting at the fact that as of right this second, someone who quits our LS gets no gil for their trouble. Right now.
 
Proverbs said:
its his shell he can do whatever he wants with it.
and not everyone is driven by gil. some just like the fact that they are in a high level linkshell and get to play end-game-type stuff.
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hmm something you never got to do, i hardly call a Dynamis only shell "end game" they wear it for 3hrs a week, hell i wear OH from 70hrs a week THAT is a endgame shell.
Pere is stalling the LS for some reason or another. If his members were so dedicated, they would have no problem moving on to the new zones to help them get the af's there and rotating around each week. Instead, he's forcing them to stay in the cities and keeps taking more and more members and redoing them each week.
 
Once we hit beau that cuts our town runs in half. And if we hit xarca it'll be cut even more. If they don't have beau access when we start beau, they'll be marginalized for a long time. I don't do marginalized. I do equality. Getting everyone wins now is economic over the long term.
 
Peregrine said:
Tell me why someone who leaves now in the building phase deserves to be rewarded when we've probably already given them a piece of relic that would have been better-given to someone with a longer tenure?

No, relic is reward enough in the building phase. If they leave now, I let them go, and I honestly have nothing to give them. Again, if they want their cut, more than likely it'd be a check for 230,000 gil. Whoop de friggin doo.
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How long is this building phase going to take place, and how long has it already? Just curious since you make it sound like you've been around less than a month.
 
Why are you all so INTERESTED in invictus? What did we do to you? We have a forum that you can apply on if you wish. I'm running out of room, but go ahead and apply if you want. You all already know just about everything there is to know about our shell. You know our assets, or methods, or history, our goals, our innards and all. Are you trying to find something we're hiding?

Dude, we've already told you everything there is to know about our shell. There's nothing left to poke. That's all there is.
 
passions said:
hmm something you never got to do, i hardly call a Dynamis only shell "end game" they wear it for 3hrs a week, hell i wear OH from 70hrs a week THAT is a endgame shell.
Pere is stalling the LS for some reason or another. If his members were so dedicated, they would have no problem moving on to the new zones to help them get the af's there and rotating around each week. Instead, he's forcing them to stay in the cities and keeps taking more and more members and redoing them each week.
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lol you make it sound like some evil plot without lying! that's pretty good.

The fact is for now we have open membership (anyone can join), we don't plan on changing this at the current time. And also we don't want to start glacier while some people are out on vacation and stuff for christmas, we already have a projected debut date and stuff =P
 
Daveman said:
Phraust, your arguments seem like you're just poking at our ls for no reason. I mean, what if a member of any linkshell quits, don't they get a share out of the "relic weapon" coin stash?

We haven't decided what to do with extra money yet, for all we know we'll build up enough coins to just upgrade a weapon for a member we can trust to stay with us. (we're going to just stash coins now that we don't have a specific item the shell is trying to buy).
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My problem is, that people have a funny way of rationalizing things like this into thier own favor. Peregrine stated that the Shell collects coins and distributes the money to it's members. This never happened. Now if somone were to have joind your shell on the pretense that they were going to get thier share of the profits, then they were told "The leaders decided to buy a thief knife instead." all the 'profit sharing' was taken from them. I am picking on your shell, I wish I could apologize for my actions, but it's the right thing to do in this case, I like to make sure people are cared for, when they are being fucked and don't yet know it. Considering your belief is that 5% of the shell is the majority vote, as stated by you. This doesn;t even have anythign to do with peregrine specifically, I was just calling him on his word.

Again... It was stated that the coins would be collected and the proceeds form the coin sales would be equally distributed amongst the members.

Again... If somone needed to/wanted to quit the shell, would they get the money they worked for; under the guidelines provided by the main figurehead of the shell, that the coins would be sold for profit, and proceeds would be evenly distrubuted to the members, get thier share of the proceeds as promised to them?
 
Wow, I guess you just don't like answering questions do you. I just forgot how long you had actually been around, and you post was misleading as I thought it was longer.
 
I think you need to stop recruiting people if you ever want to advance. Pere, your up to something i can sence it. You keep saying you want to help everyone get there first because you'll lose people? So your deleying taking anyone there for months on purpose, your also letting new people in that don't have any wins then saying OK time to help these guys get it now. How many months do you think this is going to work before you have people turn on you?
P.S. I'll unblock you just to read this respawnce, i miss to much of what you say in "quotes"
 
I don't CARE how they do it...I mean I'd like to know how they do angra and DL for comparative reasons, but geez. I would keep it to talking about the zones themselves. Not the inner workings.

When is building phase over...that's a decent question. It's been going on since september. I lost an old core and had to rebuild a new one from a new type of player that doesn't usually pack a dynamis shell. That delayed us significantly. Then we up and had a losing streak in friggin bastok and sandy of all places, and that delayed us significantly. What, are you going to laugh at that? We won windurst with an hour left that same week, so we don't too much care.

Building phase is over when half the shell knows what to do in xarcabard.
 
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