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First things first, this is not a thread about me whining I’m not a mod anymore, I don’t mind that. I do however have a problem with how the situation was treated and how our current mod staff is handling some things. Some of this is because I was a mod and saw how things were handled, and some of it has to do with how things directly dealing with me were handled (such as no longer being a mod). Going to be a little TL;DR so sorry. Also keep in mind I no longer have access to the mod section of the board so I can’t quote posts etc and I'm going off memory.

For starters, one of my main issues during my time being a mod and up till now was how secret everything was with the mod staff is. On several different occasions i got, we’ll say scolded, for bringing up something that was mentioned in the mod forum. Hell Miros even made a post in our forums, specifically because I mentioned something from those boards, telling us to keep info from the mod forum in there. And I’m sorry but that just doesn’t make sense to me. If we are discussing something that affects you the users then I think you should know about it.

I bring this up because I still don’t know why the mod group was taken away. I mean did we take up space? When I asked Miros why he responded with “Several of the mods have expressed feeling of not being able to post what they want do to their mod status.” Which if you read some of my posts you know wasn’t me (Miros also commented on this in our IM), also from Iso’s reaction (I’ll talk more on that later) I don’t think it was her either. Since Morwen is still a mod (you can call it what you want, shes still a mod) I doubt it was her so that leaves Tauro. Now I don’t know how he feels, hes been Idle on aim, so I haven’t been able to ask him, but if that is the case then 1 of 4 people seems like a pretty bad reason to axe a group. I mean he could have just stepped down, no need to end us all as well (again Idk how he felt). Also I don’t think this was a group decision because when I talked to Makelith about it (one of the global mods) he didn’t know it had happened.

Miros’s other main reason was that we didn’t bring anything to the mod staff. Now I’m guessing he was talking mostly in regards to myself since his examples only revolved around me, however again why not just take my mod away then. Now I won’t lie, I really didn’t do much as a mod after the whole VG forum disaster. However I think that’s because I didn’t have to, as in people always seemed to conduct themselves in a good manor on my boards so I never saw the need to fix anything. And again I don’t mind the fact I’m no longer a mod, however the way in which it was handled is the problem.

Now in case any of you were wondering, its all perfectly fine that I shared Miros and My MSN conversation as you can see in a post by Miros himself :

”Miros” said:
I'd refer you to this post http://www.qcdn.org/ffxi/showthread.php?t=63994 where everyone says it's okay to post private messages, /tells, IMs, and the same.

Whether or not you want to believe that I have enough respect to log onto your account and start going through your PMs and forums and whatnot is not going to really get me upset simply because...I don't do it. As of right now Reeve and I are the only two who can do it. This hack was installed on Reeve's other forum and it was recommended that it be on here. So here it is. It helps me fix a couple of problems with people's accounts and helps in assisting with accounts under review.

There's really nothing else to be said on the subject. If you are concerned that me being the evil horrible corrupt insane adminstrator will be logging onto your account and checking your PMs, then I say feel free to download them and save them to your computer instead.

Edit - I just wanted to clear up for Mirewen that I did not go through her (or his) account to read the private message. It was through the sockpuppet that was in question.

Now I personally disagree with this, and I had a decent post typed out in the feedback section regarding this issue, however it was promptly deleted by Miros about a minute after I posted for the reason: “No raidr”. I’m sorry? Now my post didn’t break any rules. I wasn’t flamebating I was simply posting the truth. I brought up the fact that admins can view users PMs without having to log into their account (which miros made it seem like you have to do in the above post.) This was briefly mentioned by PBParrot in the thread however I just wanted to retouch on it. I also mentioned that the thread miros quoted in his post was really irrelevant seeing as how in that thread it was more about one of the partys involved posting the IM/PM, not an admin going through your PMs and posting it without your permission (permissions being one of the main issues in the quoted thread as well). So why was it deleted? Again being secretive I guess, not really sure. I also have a feeling this post had some influence on our modship being taken, however miros wouldn’t say one way or the other.

Now back to Isollde. If you didn’t notice the banners have changed, and her thread has been locked (per her request). This happened because she will no longer be taking part at QCDN reason being because of how the mod situation was handled. Now as I mentioned earlier one of the reasons was Miros didn’t feel we brought anything to the board. Now this was kind of a slap in the face to Iso because she felt she did bring things to the Art section and when I talked to her, she had apparently been trying to setup several contests which Miros had replied for her to wait until Nov to do anything with. Then he just either forgot or something and never got back to her. Never the less though Iso was indeed tryin to contribute and make the art forum a better area. Now some of you may think she is over reacting by leaving, but I have to agree with her in that its kind of a shitty deal. When you offer your service for however long only to be cut with no real reason and out of the blue is kind of a shitty deal. Also as you can see she posted in the “Organizational Change” thread that it would have been nice to get a notice. We basically got a PM saying we were done as mods about 30 mins or so before our modship was taken away. Better than in the case with Myrrh though, being as how he got no notice and we were told it was for the benefit of his health.

So basically this is a request from me to the admins to stop being full of shit and start being more straightforward with the community. I'd also still like to know why the Mod group was pulled since I really haven't gotten a straight answer for that either. I’ve got some here and there answers that sound more like BS and could have been easily fixed, rather than just straight dropping the mod group. If anything hopefully this will help you to go about an issue better in the future.
 
Toasting in epic bread.

Well this seems to explain a chunk of stuff let's see how the plot thickens.
 
I was waiting for this to surface after I saw Miros' post followed by Iso's "Notice, would have been nice" post. I promptly lol'd, and waited for the shitstorm. Pretty crappy if you ask me.
 
I'm withholding my opinion outside of the hilariously obvious one because this intrigues me greatly.
ROW ROW, FIGHT THE POWAH and all that.
 
I'm withholding my opinion outside of the hilariously obvious one because this intrigues me greatly.
ROW ROW, FIGHT THE POWAH and all that.

My sig got nerfed for being too big. What the fuck.
 
I agree with a lot of this unfortunately. Pretty bad how the mods being removed was handled, and don't think the mods were useless, especially Iso.
 
I agree with a lot of this unfortunately. Pretty bad how the mods being removed was handled, and don't think the mods were useless, especially Iso.

Iso and her douchehat boyfriend were about as useless as your retarded sigs.
 
Iso and her douchehat boyfriend were about as useless as your retarded sigs.

Ow? Who pissed in your cheerios today?

I certainly didn't think Iso was useless. Moink has nothing to do with this, but nor is he. And if you think my sigs are retarded then that's your opinion and can't change that.
 
Ow? Who pissed in your cheerios today?

I certainly didn't think Iso was useless. Moink has nothing to do with this, but nor is he. And if you think my sigs are retarded then that's your opinion and can't change that.

Iso was mod of a forum that got like 4 hits a day and Moink is a fucking moron, and your sigs are like the only thing on this site that matter less than you do.
 
Take your little fight to another FB thread, I want to see what happens with the issues the OP brought up.
 
Some delicious trollin' going on in this thread.

I'm curious as to how this thread will progress, this is the first issue I've seen in a while where a good deal of the userbase is actually against the penultimate decision that was made here.
 
Didn't read yet so I'll just post as I read.

First things first, this is not a thread about me whining I’m not a mod anymore, I don’t mind that. I do however have a problem with how the situation was treated and how our current mod staff is handling some things. Some of this is because I was a mod and saw how things were handled, and some of it has to do with how things directly dealing with me were handled (such as no longer being a mod). Going to be a little TL;DR so sorry. Also keep in mind I no longer have access to the mod section of the board so I can’t quote posts etc and I'm going off memory.

For starters, one of my main issues during my time being a mod and up till now was how secret everything was with the mod staff is. On several different occasions i got, we’ll say scolded, for bringing up something that was mentioned in the mod forum. Hell Miros even made a post in our forums, specifically because I mentioned something from those boards, telling us to keep info from the mod forum in there. And I’m sorry but that just doesn’t make sense to me. If we are discussing something that affects you the users then I think you should know about it.

Secretive? I believe if MY memory serves correct, Miros asked the "lesser mods" to keep in touch with him about the ongoings of the site way back in september and you have basically posted.... NOTHING. I can't remember anything that was scolded for being brought up. If anything, I remember your punk ass being scolded for arguing with the mod team in public about retarded things instead of settling your difference with other mods amongst the team. I guess you thought you had a better chance in getting some of the public on your side with all these cool kids hating on the mods instead of anyone being a tema player on your side.

Raidrx said:
I bring this up because I still don’t know why the mod group was taken away. I mean did we take up space? When I asked Miros why he responded with “Several of the mods have expressed feeling of not being able to post what they want do to their mod status.” Which if you read some of my posts you know wasn’t me (Miros also commented on this in our IM), also from Iso’s reaction (I’ll talk more on that later) I don’t think it was her either. Since Morwen is still a mod (you can call it what you want, shes still a mod) I doubt it was her so that leaves Tauro. Now I don’t know how he feels, hes been Idle on aim, so I haven’t been able to ask him, but if that is the case then 1 of 4 people seems like a pretty bad reason to axe a group. I mean he could have just stepped down, no need to end us all as well (again Idk how he felt). Also I don’t think this was a group decision because when I talked to Makelith about it (one of the global mods) he didn’t know it had happened.

I'm sure that has nothing to do with Miros locking something by Mirewen as an ADMINISTRATIVE decision and you going ahead and positng a NEW thread about the same subject that he LOCKED which wasn't up for discussion. Right? What are you? Sub pre-pubescent asshole who wants to prove he has a couple hairs on his nuts? You know why Morwen was kept? Because she's the only one that kept in touch in the moderation forum that you, tauro and Iso had access to. And if you're wondering about Tauro, Miros's IRL friend, he's perfectly fine with all this. Stop trying to insinuate he's being all emo about it like you and Isollde are. Its fucking QCDN. You guys don't get paid for this shit so stop trying to act like losing a spiffy color means the end of the motherfucking world. Also, about Makelith, he spends a lot of time in the gaming areas. He can cover that stuff perfectly well. Want my opinon on you? Yep. I said go ahead and give you the axe. Aside from being a mod of a forum that requires the least amount of moderation, all you did that I noticed the last few months was go against what administration would publicly post, "team player."

Raidrx said:
Miros’s other main reason was that we didn’t bring anything to the mod staff. Now I’m guessing he was talking mostly in regards to myself since his examples only revolved around me, however again why not just take my mod away then. Now I won’t lie, I really didn’t do much as a mod after the whole VG forum disaster. However I think that’s because I didn’t have to, as in people always seemed to conduct themselves in a good manor on my boards so I never saw the need to fix anything. And again I don’t mind the fact I’m no longer a mod, however the way in which it was handled is the problem.

Exactly. No use for you that much anymore. Anything you do Makelith can cover perfectly well. People didn't behave themselves *because* of you, they behaved themselves because its a VG area. The appropriate manner was a given. If you don't mind the fact your a mod, stfu and quit crying about it already. Stop trying to stick up for the others when they haven't brought it to the FB.

Now in case any of you were wondering, its all perfectly fine that I shared Miros and My MSN conversation as you can see in a post by Miros himself :



Raidrx said:
Now I personally disagree with this, and I had a decent post typed out in the feedback section regarding this issue, however it was promptly deleted by Miros about a minute after I posted for the reason: “No raidr”. I’m sorry? Now my post didn’t break any rules. I wasn’t flamebating I was simply posting the truth. I brought up the fact that admins can view users PMs without having to log into their account (which miros made it seem like you have to do in the above post.) This was briefly mentioned by PBParrot in the thread however I just wanted to retouch on it. I also mentioned that the thread miros quoted in his post was really irrelevant seeing as how in that thread it was more about one of the partys involved posting the IM/PM, not an admin going through your PMs and posting it without your permission (permissions being one of the main issues in the quoted thread as well). So why was it deleted? Again being secretive I guess, not really sure. I also have a feeling this post had some influence on our modship being taken, however miros wouldn’t say one way or the other.

It was deleted, you fucking moron, because Miros is an administrator and you're just a little bitch going against what he says thinking that you have some kind of authority to question him. Go ahead and say I'm on Miros' nuts, I really don't give a fuck. Little known fact, anything I do on the site doesn't go without an admin's say-so. You're a teenager witha rebel without a cause stance. I've been against you being mod and this shit is just my reason to show the public why. When you take a position of moderation, that basically means that you agree to EVERYTHING that goes on from the administration POV. If you don't agree with it, you stay a user. Idiots like you are a dime a dozen. You want the cool "respected" color all for the wrong reasons. GG on telling other people that you "deserve" to be a Global Moderator, retard. I've said a million times that anyone that asks to be a Global Moderator should never be one. I never asked to be one. I got appointed to it.

Raidrx said:
Now back to Isollde. If you didn’t notice the banners have changed, and her thread has been locked (per her request). This happened because she will no longer be taking part at QCDN reason being because of how the mod situation was handled. Now as I mentioned earlier one of the reasons was Miros didn’t feel we brought anything to the board. Now this was kind of a slap in the face to Iso because she felt she did bring things to the Art section and when I talked to her, she had apparently been trying to setup several contests which Miros had replied for her to wait until Nov to do anything with. Then he just either forgot or something and never got back to her. Never the less though Iso was indeed tryin to contribute and make the art forum a better area. Now some of you may think she is over reacting by leaving, but I have to agree with her in that its kind of a shitty deal. When you offer your service for however long only to be cut with no real reason and out of the blue is kind of a shitty deal. Also as you can see she posted in the “Organizational Change” thread that it would have been nice to get a notice. We basically got a PM saying we were done as mods about 30 mins or so before our modship was taken away. Better than in the case with Myrrh though, being as how he got no notice and we were told it was for the benefit of his health.

Fuck you for bringing up Myrrh. Myrrh is better than you and Isollde because he didn't go crying saying to lock his threads nor did he make a pathetic fucking flame about losing his modship. Wnat to know what separates him from you two fucks? Myrrh is STILL working on what he was working on when he was fired because a stupid ass lame title doesn't make or break what he is or what he's done. Jesus Christ, man.

Raidrx said:
So basically this is a request from me to the admins to stop being full of shit and start being more straightforward with the community. I'd also still like to know why the Mod group was pulled since I really haven't gotten a straight answer for that either. I’ve got some here and there answers that sound more like BS and could have been easily fixed, rather than just straight dropping the mod group. If anything hopefully this will help you to go about an issue better in the future.

This is a request from me to you to STFU. We are VERY straightforward with the community. You're not a mod at any degree anymore and I for one, after reading this flame, could not be any happier. I'm sure you'd like to know a lot, but guess what? You're no longer important enough, nor were you ever, to earn such information. You were a video game area mod, ffs. Its an area thats a far offshoot from what QCDN was originally created for.

If anything helpful, as you said, this will just side you with the people that are on the Audino/Moderation Hate Train, which is a losing battle. Other than that... this is just another really sad thread that most people with a brain will say QQ to. You're not a mod, you hardly ever were one, and fuck you for trying to made administration look bad. And if you think this looks bad as a QCDN Global Moderator saying it, go ahead and try to get me fired. Please.

Blahhhhh I'm not hear to cry about not being a mod, but I got fucked over!!!!! Fuck you.
 
And as an aside...

Go ahead people. PC+1 the shit out of this thread. Treat it like the trash it is.
 
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