Concerning Adminminship (i think I made that word up)

[Alyada]

Maybe Sculli just got tired of your bitching and decided a ffxi site wasn't worth the effort.

HAHA. Oh my. This was too rich. Seems like half the mod staff left because of this reason. XD

 

[pakomen]

Were you even here when that happened? If you were, you'd know.

Yes, I actually was here when Sculli when all holy on us. But people's constant bitching and moaning will positively get under any webmaster's skin over time.

I never liked Sculli.

Again, if you'd been paying attention, you'd know it's not only possible, but has been done in the past. Are you even aware of the situation currently?

Good to hear. Then it should be fixed eventually, but it's hardly pressing.

Highlighted a single word for emphasis. The current moderation team has stabilized and is doing an excellent job. Lots of things can be attributed to them. The rest is all just set it and forget it, there's not usually a reason for it to NEED fixing.

If it's not broke...

When something DOES need doing, guess what? Months later, it's still not. Linkshell forums, Permissions errors, general tweaks, hell, look how long it took to get the clock fixed.

I'm still waiting to know what the world emergency is right now. It sounds like there are a few small problems and you're just latching on to them so you have something to bitch about. A clock. A freaking clock. Give me a break. I would have sat on my ass for that one as well if I was the administrator.

I dunno what part of "Reeve volunteered" you don't really understand. Nobody's forcing him to keep doing this, which is obvious really. If he's not going to, though, he needs to simply say so, drop the site, and let someone else pick up the ball for a change.

This isn't like volunteering at the library to help put books away. Reeve pays for the site. Reeve pays for the domain. As I said before, that shit is cheap and anybody can do it. But basically, as I said, this is Reeve's site. And if he wants to put in some hard work over a few months, he will. And if he wants to just sit on his ass and let the moderators do all the work for a few months, he will. And if after time the moderators all go supernova and gtfo of here in frustration, that'll be his own damn fault, but it's his perogative.

Now if someone decided they could do a better job than Reeve they ought to make the man an offer to buy the site from him. I can't imagine it'd cost that much to buy the man out. I doubt he's making a killing off this site. I doubt he's even making enough to cover expenses what with links to "Buy FFXI Accounts" and "Cheap FFXI Powerleveling" as the main source of advertizing via Google.

This is almost preferable. Almost.

I'd like to see him take qcdn down for a month as a joke. That'd just crack me the hell up. And a lot of you would deserve it.

Christ, some of you people. Maybe it's just because when I say something, I actually put forth an effort to keep my word. I guess that's too much to expect of others.

Yeah, you're right, you're the only one who makes an effort to keep your word. Good on ya.

The rest of us have real world issues which we'd most likely prioritize over making sure the damn clock works on a message board for a video game.

 

[RoM]

I has a prollem:

Were you even here when that happened? If you were, you'd know.

Funny, apparently you don't. Specificly not based on the stuff i'm reading out of you in the last page or two.

Please, do enlighten the rest of the class who were balls deep in Sculli's mess as to exactly what was going on and how Sculli felt about the whole mess, i'm all ears.

Sometimes i wish my PM box was bigger and that i haden't requested Mokk's deletion... I'm sure given a little digging i could shatter whatever reality you built yourself around that whole drama-fest.

It should also be pointed out that alyada was made co-admin (name only), not a rank in between mod and admin status. The color change in the name should have been a deadset giveaway for someone so knowledgeable about how things work around here. Don't believe me think about it for a second... Permission issues anyone? Any limitation of the power provided to alyada had to have been strictly on the honor system. I can only assume as i don't have access to the CP but it doesn't take much to put 2 and 2 together.

Please manage to know what you're talking about before bitching at random about nothing in particular. So far all i've picked up is 'Reeve doesn't live up to my standards he should treat this like a job.'

Boo-Fucking-Hoo.

Now, if there were more of you you might possibly have some kind of merit getting all haughty about the topic. But no, it's just you. What's worse is how you respond to those of us who pay attention and can recall such things in detail at the drop of the hat instead of taking a shot in the dark and insulting other people who were more involved than you were at the time (save well, this same kind of bitching and moaning with absolutely no constructive information or suggestion provided). Many of us who've been around long enough and take interest in such things could quite easily notice a pattern whereas you and admin criticism go. The sad part is you don't know the half of it whereas your assumptions about previous administrations around here go.

Your response is null and void. Don't respond. Read, think, stop wasting our time, stop wasting your time. This isn't a utopia, a democracy, or a customer service help-line. What Sculli said holds true just as much now as it did back then. Take it or leave it. At the very least voice your displeasure and shut the fuck up. You can only repeat 'i'm not happy, i want admin-X to do ______' so many times for christ's sake.

You're out of line. What's more saying you're making mountains out of molehills must qualify me for understatement of the century.

That is all.

 

[CmdrFly]

This is bordering a move to the Flameboard.

Come on ladies, kick it up a notch!

 

[RaidrX]

Again, if you'd been paying attention, you'd know it's not only possible, but has been done in the past. Are you even aware of the situation currently?

Or, if you had been paying attention, you would have seen that you can't. And although Eliott thought it had been done, it was really only Fly and Aly getting temp admin, but they couldn't really do anything because they didn't know how. Which again goes to show that admining requires knowledge and not just someone "dedicated" to the boards.

This is bordering a move to the Flameboard.

Come on ladies, kick it up a notch!

lol.

 

[K. Ishitar]

This is bordering a move to the Flameboard.

Come on ladies, kick it up a notch!

I fucking hate weaksauce avatars like yours fly, you and your 36 smn sub

=D

seriousness: fly you know you want to hop on it!

 

[CmdrFly]

I fucking hate weaksauce avatars like yours fly

Now it's personal.

 

[Garvin]

Now that I'm done with dynamis and whatnot, just figured I'd drop back in to say I'm tired of beating my head against a brick wall, getting everything I say taken in an entirely different way than I'm typing it, and you're all morons, even people who agree with me. Seeya.

 

[pakomen]

Glad you feel that way. But quite positively I am more intelligent than you. Have a good one.

And house rules.

 

[Miros]

He may have posted it, but I remember bringing it up previously. I was told about the conversation in game by Miros, just a few days before he stepped down from Moderator status. We had been sharing our frustrations about being moderators that could do little to address the issues being brought up.

Hey, yeah, sorry it took so long to reply, gotta love a busy life. =) The jist of the conversation was we were discussing some items, and towards the end it was just "Does it really matter?" So it got me in a blargh mood, and since he didn't really know that I wasn't specifically set to mod any boards...I figured it was time for me to scoot.

Dunno if its been said or not before, but back to the car analogy...say you owned a 1991 Acura Integra. Nothing was really wrong with it, few scratches, ran great, needed little maintenance...but then you saw a gorgeous Mazda Rx8. Now, say you had the ability to purchase that car. Would you? :O All I'm saying is that...for those who have been to SO, they know that they have a shout box, a nifty lil gil system, and an awesome arcade.

Both sides are right here though. This board is not our own, we don't own it (cept those who actually donate), we could go make our own board...but you have to remember...QCDN.org is a very valuable intangible asset. QCDN has soooooo much potential. We could either become one of those cars that just get us from point A to point B....or we could try to become a very nice looking car that we enjoy keeping maintained, cleaned, and always up to date.

 

[Alyada]

It should also be pointed out that alyada was made co-admin (name only), not a rank in between mod and admin status. The color change in the name should have been a deadset giveaway for someone so knowledgeable about how things work around here. Don't believe me think about it for a second... Permission issues anyone? Any limitation of the power provided to alyada had to have been strictly on the honor system. I can only assume as i don't have access to the CP but it doesn't take much to put 2 and 2 together.

Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but when I was made admin it was more of a: "ban IPs and stuff when things get out of hand," because that's back in the days of MANY WHELPS(bots) and lots of idiots spamming the boards. I can think of a few choice names that were tearing up shit and ended up being a hairs breadth from IP banning.

Other than that, I wasn't given any full instruction on how to manage the boards. In fact, we were given very little instruction as moderators as well. I can't remember how many topics Fly and I created that basically summed up to: "How I mine for boards?"

I just did the best job I could, and while it didn't end up as a whole lot I'm happy I was given the opportunity.

 

[Kotsu]

Dunno if its been said or not before, but back to the car analogy...say you owned a 1991 Acura Integra. Nothing was really wrong with it, few scratches, ran great, needed little maintenance...but then you saw a gorgeous Mazda Rx8. Now, say you had the ability to purchase that car. Would you? :O All I'm saying is that...for those who have been to SO, they know that they have a shout box, a nifty lil gil system, and an awesome arcade.

All I'm saying is that you would end up spending twice as much per year in service too. Anyhows.... Yeah, SO has some neat things but not necessary considering our forum actually has a purpose behind it. So, we should be good. I just don't understand why we have the incessant bitching because an admin isn't spamming posts to make sure he's noticed. Shit works, leave it alone.

 

[Miros]

All I'm saying is that you would end up spending twice as much per year in service too. Anyhows.... Yeah, SO has some neat things but not necessary considering our forum actually has a purpose behind it. So, we should be good. I just don't understand why we have the incessant bitching because an admin isn't spamming posts to make sure he's noticed. Shit works, leave it alone.

I completely see your point. I still think it would be really nifty if we could get those things added though. I'd try to talk to Reeve about it, but I'm sure he's still bitter from things I've said.

 

[Kotsu]

I completely see your point. I still think it would be really nifty if we could get those things added though. I'd try to talk to Reeve about it, but I'm sure he's still bitter from things I've said.

Forgive and forget, right? Even still, adding content to any site will add traffic to any site. At the same time, it could possibly take away from the posting activity as the distraction of games and shit may receive the majority of a posters attention. That's ok at SO since there's not much there to post about that hasn't been said 1324908 times over. However, here... Well, we have a completely different style of posting here. Hell, you and I went at it in one thread and we walked away with absolutely no discontent for eachother. Most web forums are not like that, in my opinion. That's only 1 of the many, many ways that this community differs from most of the intarweb retards.

 

[Canitoch]

I don't mind how QCDN is now, I'm happy the site is still running, but I would like to see more of Reeve, not just his every 1-2 month post stating "I'm still here/alive/etc" Though I shouldn't be complaining about that since QCDN is running, but I think that it's good for an admin to get to know the site a bit.

To me at least, it seems like QCDN is just one of those things Reeve has to check on, not so much what QCDN..if you understand what I'm saying.

 

[Miros]

Forgive and forget, right? Even still, adding content to any site will add traffic to any site. At the same time, it could possibly take away from the posting activity as the distraction of games and shit may receive the majority of a posters attention. That's ok at SO since there's not much there to post about that hasn't been said 1324908 times over. However, here... Well, we have a completely different style of posting here. Hell, you and I went at it in one thread and we walked away with absolutely no discontent for eachother. Most web forums are not like that, in my opinion. That's only 1 of the many, many ways that this community differs from most of the intarweb retards.

I don't even remember that thread. rofl But I still like ya!

 

[Tim Wakefield]

I completely see your point. I still think it would be really nifty if we could get those things added though. I'd try to talk to Reeve about it, but I'm sure he's still bitter from things I've said.

Agreed. For the loyal members around here that have stuck around through thick and thin, it would be nice to get a little somethin back. An arcade isnt much to ask for, especially since Nox clearly already knows how to impliment it, so why not? Wouldn't hurt anyone, and might though it'd never return this site to what it used to be, it'd be a step in the right direction.

 

[RaidrX]

Wtf? Is this not a forums anymore? Just checking, cause im pretty sure a forums doesn't = arcade... Forums are for posting. If you want to play games goto addictinggames.com You guys are complaining about the dumbest shit. Maybe its just me, but I'd prefer completely bare forums, where you post, and thats about it. I think gil and games and rate ups (yes rate ups) are worthless. Its turns the boards into "Ohh what can i post to get rate ups" or people just posting "OMFG RATE ME UP PLX!" instead of an actual, worthwhile post to read. I liked qcdn back in the day when we didnt have all this BS shit on here, like who gives a shit about longevity etc. Idk thats just my opinion i guess.

 

[Miros]

Wtf? Is this not a forums anymore? Just checking, cause im pretty sure a forums doesn't = arcade... Forums are for posting. If you want to play games goto addictinggames.com You guys are complaining about the dumbest shit. Maybe its just me, but I'd prefer completely bare forums, where you post, and thats about it. I think gil and games and rate ups (yes rate ups) are worthless. Its turns the boards into "Ohh what can i post to get rate ups" or people just posting "OMFG RATE ME UP PLX!" instead of an actual, worthwhile post to read. I liked qcdn back in the day when we didnt have all this BS shit on here, like who gives a shit about longevity etc. Idk thats just my opinion i guess.

This is a prime example of taking it way too far. I'm not really badgering or complaining at this point about an arcade...or a gil system, or anything really. I'm just saying that we have the potential to implement it, and that I do hope that in time we get it. Things upgrade ya know...websites sometimes just had HTML on them...then they javascript and all the other fancy stuff. So in a sense...does that mean since we are just a forum that we should just stick to being a pure forum and not adding a little extra to it?

If anything...it would raise the traffic and possibly bring back some more advertising revenue...although I'm not 100% sure about how that works.

 

[Blancho]

I honestly can't say there is one person on here I would like to see as Admin. I'd rather have someone like Reeve who doesn't come around a lot just does his job quietly in the background. He even brought some cool new features to the site when he brought in Nox to help him with some of the more technical things on the site. I would hate to see an admin who comes on here and posts everyday and flames and plays favorites and does all those things. It's better that he's not around to add to the bullshit could you imagine what this site would be like if the Admin was right in the mix of all the bullshit that goes on. It would make this site into complete chaos and possibly even be the fall of it.

I'm just tired of hearing all of you complain about Reeve. Reeve does his job he keeps the site going he adds new features and he keeps his cool. What more can you ask for? Better him then you damn whiners.

YOU DON'T LIKE THE ADMIN THEN LEAVE! I personally think he's great.