Derail from the SE's Good/Bad thread

couldnt have agreed more. Who needs a pillow when you can drown your tears in a flameboard?
 
dbuman said:
Whats the name of the KS30s? Id like to see if i stand in any chance in doing them.
One is vs a morlbol, I think I could solo it as blm/rdm with meds, that drops the Morlbolger vine. One is vs a cockatrice, it drops the cockatrice skin, the other is vs a tiger, it drops the tiger thing. Nue Fang and Dodo Skin are by no means hard to get, or hugely contested, anyone that BC's for them is just flat out dumb. Morlbolger Vine is a 21-24 hour HNM, which is often camped.
 
Lanien said:
To keep it on topic though, I am all for having every piece as early as you can get it. I remember playing DRG and never advancing a level until I had what I needed. I stopped when I needed a SH. I stopped when I needed my AJ. I stopped when I needed my OHat. Get your shit or don't seek. If you have time to party, you have time to farm/quest.
Most important thing said here and its been skipped over.

I felt gimp until I had a Hauby+1 on my war, at lvl 59...I also farmed while lfp on lolprd. Least you can do is stop and get yourself a brown belt. Exp. to 75 has been cut, you have tons of help in Genkai's and AF quests, things are much easier now.

Stop.

Farm/Quest/HELM.

Get Needed Item.

Continue without Gimping your party.

Its not a race to 75, take pride in your gear.
 
Shaunessy said:
No, I meant the black belt items. Just showing another way to go about it. It's ok though, Baja would rather be gimp than try something hard. To me it's just funny they will kick a MNK from a party because of the lack of brown belt, when by all rights they should have a black belt. But I know, it's too hard so it's not nessesary.

Get a clue. Then talk.
 
Shaunessy said:
No, I meant the black belt items. Just showing another way to go about it. It's ok though, Baja would rather be gimp than try something hard. To me it's just funny they will kick a MNK from a party because of the lack of brown belt, when by all rights they should have a black belt. But I know, it's too hard so it's not nessesary.
Yes, I'm gimp even though I'm only missing 4 items to be finished with monk gear, the 4 most difficult items to get. I'm obviously not saving up my Kindred Seals to do the KS99's to finish my black belt, since I'm not in an linkshell that camps the kings to get them that way; oh wait, that's exactly what I'm doing. There's a vast difference between someone not having an easily obtainable item and one of the rarest items in the game.
 
I have bad luck at farming apparently. The only thing i was ever good at was harvesting and farming plumes. ; ; but i dont have the hours in the day to farm plumes to the point where its worth it. When can a melee job start joining dynamis and such for items and gil?
 
Dynamis is 65 just to get in(SE's requirement), but you'll be next to worthless until 70. It's also not a very effective way to make money, I've been doing dynamis for almost 2 years and never won a 100 coin; and the money items aren't worth a great deal anymore. The relic is good to supplement your current gear though.
 
What do you advise a lv65 to farm and/or camp? Im welcoming any help I can get.
 
I don't think it's hard to get KSs. I have 99 and I don't even try to get them. Hell half the time I can't even get them because my invo is full when I'm out in a party. 99 isn't really that hard to get, and at higher levels EP drop them. Normally, if I try I can farm about 10 beastmen seals in an hour in the promies, and 5 Kindred/hour fighting EP solo as a 66 SAM. It's not hard, just too hard for you to be bothered with it. So next time you see a MNK without a brown belt, don't say shit until you have a black belt.
 
Shaunessy said:
I don't think it's hard to get KSs. I have 99 and I don't even try to get them. Hell half the time I can't even get them because my invo is full when I'm out in a party. 99 isn't really that hard to get, and at higher levels EP drop them. Normally, if I try I can farm about 10 beastmen seals in an hour in the promies, and 5 Kindred/hour fighting EP solo as a 66 SAM. It's not hard, just too hard for you to be bothered with it. So next time you see a MNK without a brown belt, don't say shit until you have a black belt.
Welcome to the game of luck, I've gotten 7 KS in an hour and 0 in an hour before while soloing. In a party, it's even more random, since you're now "competing" with 5 other people for the KS. That's like insulting someone because they've killed an NM 10 times without a drop while you lucked out and got it on your first. Getting KS takes time, and then you need to get enough people to win the KSNM, along with other people bringing their orbs so that it's not just a huge waste of time. That means that you'll have to wait even longer, so you're looking at several months at least just to get all 3 items from the KS99, and that's assuming that you're doing the fights regularly.

You're also ignoring the part about how brown belt beats the crap out of everything else at 75, so it's hardly gimp to have an excellent piece when the only thing better is so rare.
 
Stouter said:
One is vs a morlbol, I think I could solo it as blm/rdm with meds, that drops the Morlbolger vine.


It's a little tougher than that. The thing hits hard and fast, builds a resistance to gravity rather quickly, and isn't sleepable(I dont think).

Besides, it's fun to bring a full party and kite it around and watch the one melee that can't get the timing down, die from the breath attack multiple times. Cracks me up every time, that shit never gets old!
 
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Shaunessy said:
You've been a 75 MNK for how long? Just stop, you lose. It's not rare, you just don't want to take the time and farm it. That's all it is.
It is rare. Its ra/ex on top of that. So you can't FARM it like baj mentioned for the brown belt. Black belt is the best of the best piece of equipment, and any other melee would give their left arm to have the chance at a Brown Belt, let alone a Black Belt. But every Monk wants them, and, as Baj also mentioned, you have competing LS's fighting for 3 kings.

Getting the tongue from KS99 is feasible for most people. Getting the other two items isn't. This leaves your options to be try to camp the items with your endgame ls, hope you're there long enough to do it, or pay a competing LS for the rights to the drop. This ONLY happens IF no one in the winning LS needs the item, AND you were able to make that spawn.

Brown Belt you're lazy if you don't have it. Trust me, 75 MNKs would give their left nut for a Black Belt. Its just not feasible for them all to have one.
 
Shaunessy said:
You've been a 75 MNK for how long? Just stop, you lose. It's not rare, you just don't want to take the time and farm it. That's all it is.


Didn't you quit the fucking game? God damn kid, you are a perfect example of why I'm losing faith in humanity. What was your highest job, 65? You know NOTHING about how end-game works. What's next, going to bitch about WARs not having Ridill+E.Body or RDMs missing Dalmatica? Stop acting all high and mighty, Black Belt is one of the hardest items in the damn game to get.
 
Ajs said:
Didn't you quit the fucking game? God damn kid, you are a perfect example of why I'm losing faith in humanity. What was your highest job, 65? You know NOTHING about how end-game works. What's next, going to bitch about WARs not having Ridill+E.Body or RDMs missing Dalmatica? Stop acting all high and mighty, Black Belt is one of the hardest items in the damn game to get.
:shok: ajs pretty much said it "you need do more research." On side not never knew about the ks30 droping the items. As for people without brownbelt being gimp, It more like brown make you above avarage intstead of mediocore. While A mnk should strive to get one. I whould not call them gimp for not having one at 40.
 
Did someone say KS99?

VVVVVV I need to update that counter. And my Beastmaster info.

Updated.
 
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jamal said:
Trust me, 75 MNKs would give their left nut for a Black Belt. Its just not feasible for them all to have one.
No, they just don't want it. It's not hard to farm 99 KS. Very boring, not hard though. Then all you need to do is find people to do a run with. Oh wait, yeah people don't do that do they.


Cancelled my IDs, they don't run out until the 31st of this month. I know more than you think, and watch endgame all the time. Not much different than any other game when you are high level and there really isn't much hard to do at end game in FFXI. Personally though I like GA weilding WARs better than axe/sword wannabes that dominate the game. Mainly it comes from Steel Cyclone being the baddest WS in the game. Would love to see a DRK/THF do one of those with SATA and Absorb-STR Absorb-DEX and Last Resort up. That would just be devestation.

I'm just saying until you are the king of all gears then shut the fuck up about other peoples set-up.
 
lawlz skaw. i used to throw KS away like i used to throw BS away... but now i treasure them knowing what good they can bring.

Shaun... you dont have to cancel your ids, just readjust your attitude. If me and Baja can get along at the end, maybe theres hope for you... but i dont wanna speak too soon.
 
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