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Stop with the animated gifs and make some real posts....
these are real posts. unless you can tell me what a fake post is i see nothing wrong with this. 
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You can stop with the post count +1 crap, Real posts have content in them, IE words pertaining to this topic. At this point your just spamming the topic and I don't want to have to start deleting your posts.
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*Stick's a fork in Douche because he is done* Lol if you knew me you'd know I don't take too many things seriously. I clearly said if your unable to comprehend that I said your 2 gil meaning your 2 cents then your one liucky kid... blah blah blah. Never said you actually bought your character, if you want to take it that way be my guest. It's a game don't take things too seriously.
You started acting up on my thread so you got *AstralBurned* bish!! Was a joke, so have a laugh and some good times.
Mattaru you should have continued reading, as I have clarifyed what I was meaning to say.
Pomp thanks and I agree with your post.
Anyway guys back to the topic at hand, what avatar would you want the most?? which one do you think would be best suited for SMN's of all different level ranges and why??
You started acting up on my thread so you got *AstralBurned* bish!! Was a joke, so have a laugh and some good times.
Mattaru you should have continued reading, as I have clarifyed what I was meaning to say.
Pomp thanks and I agree with your post.
Anyway guys back to the topic at hand, what avatar would you want the most?? which one do you think would be best suited for SMN's of all different level ranges and why??
geuss what Moev. ur a gay ass mofo. lol
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Just give more pacts to the ones already existing. Any new avatars won't have awesome abilities folks, they'll have filler bloodpacts. Take a gander at Diabolos. Nothing can be added to Summoners that will make the other Avatars obsolete, which restricts what you'll see for the job in the future in regards to new avatars and abilities. They gave too much to Fenrir, which left so little "holes" left in the job to fill. Yeah, Phoenix might be a possibility. But outside of (Re)Raise, she'll have nothing.
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Knights of the round is the WS granted by the fully upgraded Relic sword, so I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for the summon. Almost as unlikely would be magus sisters or anima. All I can imagine being added is pheonix and even that they would probably mirror what happened with diabolos and release it months after the next expansion comes out.
If I had to pick a completely outlandish, impossible summon I would like to see, it would be Master Tonberry from FFVIII. Why? Because it would be funny to watch, and I would be able to slap him around to my heart's content.
If I had to pick a completely outlandish, impossible summon I would like to see, it would be Master Tonberry from FFVIII. Why? Because it would be funny to watch, and I would be able to slap him around to my heart's content.
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Jumbo Cactuar 4tw! Or Doomtrain 
Hmm yeah fenrir was great to have if I ever took a party since he has some great buffs, but really I found I didn't really use him all that much unless I was fighting a robot or in a party where either the tank was getting hit alot or someone was missing like crazy even with ACC food. Also maybe while farming during the 65-70 stage. Other then that I never really used fenrir.
In a party where I was main healing I usually never had that problem since I usually had dual war's tanking.
Lol I could totally see SE brining in Yojimbo. Even as just a way to use up some of that excess gil floating around. He probally would have some powerful attacks but I don't think people could complain about that if we had to pay gil everytime we summoned him lol.
What I would like to see is some type of avatar that will do more damage to ghosts. Anyone who has burned in KRT knows that smn's don't do so well against those types of mobs. Diabolos is pretty good against ele's.
What about Valfor or Ixnion (or however it's spelled)?
I am pretty sure SE is gonna add some more BP abilities to some or all of our avatars through something to do with merits. Only problem with that is it only is useful to SMN's who are already 75, but what about all the other smn's from 1 to 74? They probally all are working hard to level smn to 75 for the most part, but having some extra avatars even with only token abilities and maybe only 1 real useful pact wouldn't be such a bad thing.
Also with a few more new avatars maybe SE will make it so SMN's can use BP's to make Light and Darkness skillchains and other types of SC's alot more easily.
In a party where I was main healing I usually never had that problem since I usually had dual war's tanking.
Lol I could totally see SE brining in Yojimbo. Even as just a way to use up some of that excess gil floating around. He probally would have some powerful attacks but I don't think people could complain about that if we had to pay gil everytime we summoned him lol.
What I would like to see is some type of avatar that will do more damage to ghosts. Anyone who has burned in KRT knows that smn's don't do so well against those types of mobs. Diabolos is pretty good against ele's.
What about Valfor or Ixnion (or however it's spelled)?
I am pretty sure SE is gonna add some more BP abilities to some or all of our avatars through something to do with merits. Only problem with that is it only is useful to SMN's who are already 75, but what about all the other smn's from 1 to 74? They probally all are working hard to level smn to 75 for the most part, but having some extra avatars even with only token abilities and maybe only 1 real useful pact wouldn't be such a bad thing.
Also with a few more new avatars maybe SE will make it so SMN's can use BP's to make Light and Darkness skillchains and other types of SC's alot more easily.
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Lol, I see a repeat of the bst nerf coming to smn. Yes your BP's do squat damage now, but we gave you a new summon; Chocobo!. He runs out and lays an egg, and 5 minutes later out pop fireworks.
Smn is the hardest job to level to 75 and mnk gets the shaft in gear upgrades? If you want to argue semantics I guess you could say mnk gets the shaft in upgrades, since they get the majority of their elite gear 34-40. But smn is the hardest job to level? As long as their is a shortage of whms, smn will always have "we couldn't find a whm, wanna exp?" How often do parties sit in jeuno looking for a healer? How often do parties sit in jeuno looking for a melee DD? You can say your job in exp parties is harder, but getting to 75 is much easier, since you actually get those exp parties.
I honestly don't see smn fitting into lvl 3 SC's, except their current spot (Retribution!) Level 70 BP's do so much damage, you couldn't fit them into a SC without making smn the most powerful DD 70+ by far. If you got some other BP's that chained, I wouldn't expect them to be any more powerful than a 215+ ws.
Every job is getting merit spells/abilities at 75, smn won't be the only job. It's gonna be one of those perks for end game, and will end up driving out some of the non-75's from end game activities.
Smn is the hardest job to level to 75 and mnk gets the shaft in gear upgrades? If you want to argue semantics I guess you could say mnk gets the shaft in upgrades, since they get the majority of their elite gear 34-40. But smn is the hardest job to level? As long as their is a shortage of whms, smn will always have "we couldn't find a whm, wanna exp?" How often do parties sit in jeuno looking for a healer? How often do parties sit in jeuno looking for a melee DD? You can say your job in exp parties is harder, but getting to 75 is much easier, since you actually get those exp parties.
I honestly don't see smn fitting into lvl 3 SC's, except their current spot (Retribution!) Level 70 BP's do so much damage, you couldn't fit them into a SC without making smn the most powerful DD 70+ by far. If you got some other BP's that chained, I wouldn't expect them to be any more powerful than a 215+ ws.
Every job is getting merit spells/abilities at 75, smn won't be the only job. It's gonna be one of those perks for end game, and will end up driving out some of the non-75's from end game activities.
Lack of MNK Equipment isn't what I was referring to. I was pointing out that a lot of equipment 1-50 looks entirely the same.
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I don't think Summoner needs to fear a nerf just yet. SE only nerfs percieved abuse of the system. Right now, there aren't enough Summoners for endgame to exploit. I doubt there ever will be, because the people who flock to bandwagon jobs tend not to enjoy healing/support jobs. Summoner has a built in safety net against bandwagon rejects. If only Blm had a bandwagon barrier. Since SE has left Blm alone, and it seems as if this will be so indefinitely, I don't see any reason for Smns to worry. Once a minute Blm-style damage w/o hate comes at the cost of 69 levels of community abuse.