"Expanding" Endgame Linkshells

[Rone]

hahahahahah what are u going to take me behind a building and steal my lunch money?

LOL u got something to say to me to threaten me?

dont let ur e pen grow too hard by sending me /tells u got something to say u can say it so everyone here can read

Why are u going off topic? did i say i was going to threathen u? I said i want to clear this whole dynamis BS with and end this post but if u don't want to deal with this issue in a civilized manner then that's ur poragative. As far as that member is concerned he can stick with ur shell if that's what he wants and no penalties will befall him.

 

[Zerayla]

Then why flame us if u don't want to settle this? I'm still waiting in game to settle this.

What's to settle? You guys made your members feel as though they were given an ultimadum with both choices being unwanted. They had to chose the lesser of the two evils so to speak, and now your lovely Dynamis LS can flourish.

Its ok though, karma always bites you in the ass ^^

 

[Rone]

I took your members how ? by starting dynamis? how is that my fault there was a demand for a venue and we provided it. I asked members to come and if they left yours to join ours that's on the member and not the leaders LIKE I"VE SAID MANY TIMES OVER those members could have opted to stay BUT if they left they left for they're own reasons and NOT BECAUSE WE MADE IT MANDATORY

 

[Raesylil]

For the record Zer hasn't said that Jyakotsu's shell took members from her shell. She just said that some shells were.

 

[Rone]

What's to settle? You guys made your members feel as though they were given an ultimadum with both choices being unwanted. They had to chose the lesser of the two evils so to speak, and now your lovely Dynamis LS can flourish.

Its ok though, karma always bites you in the ass ^^

Don't sit there and tell me when U started a dynamis shell u didn't ask everyone u knew to join your shell. And in all likelyhood some of those members were already in other shells YET they left for they're own reasons and joined your shell.

So don't sit there and accuse US of stealing ur people we announced it and asked them to join PERIOD.

We do what other shells do when they want to start a new venture we recruit and if people leave another ls to join us that choice was made by the member and the blame / responsibility falls to that member and not the shells officers

 

[jyakotsu]

For the record Zer hasn't said that Jyakotsu's shell took members from her shell. She just said that some shells were.

<<< Doesnt own a dynamis shell for the record. I am in one though

 

[Zerayla]

Don't sit there and tell me when U started a dynamis shell u didn't ask everyone u knew to join your shell. And in all likelyhood some of those members were already in other shells YET they left for they're own reasons and joined your shell.

So don't sit there and accuse US of stealing ur people we announced it and asked them to join PERIOD.

We do what other shells do when they want to start a new venture we recruit and if people leave another ls to join us that choice was made by the member and the blame / responsibility falls to that member and not the shells officers

Um no, SpiftasticAdventures was created when Meeze wasn't able to continue running Badnfluenz. I don't remember the specifics, I think he had to leave the game for a while. As a result, one of our newest members Archmage stepped up and offered to create a LS which became SpiftasticAdventures. A good core group from Badnfluenz came over, and sought to work together to make an enjoyable Dynamis LS. I was one of the members, and Archmage had me promoted as a leader.

When we started SpiftasticAdventures, there wasn't any incentive for members other than us having a later schedule which no other Dynamis LS was able to accomadate. We made a post here on QCDN, and thats the only way i've gone about recruiting.

There really is no point to argueing with someone like you, i've said what i've needed to say and you just keep spouting the same crap over and over.

Word of advice - A good leader will think of the reactions/thoughts/feelings that their members will have before they speak so that things aren't misinterpreted.

 

[Raesylil]

Don't sit there and tell me when U started a dynamis shell u didn't ask everyone u knew to join your shell. And in all likelyhood some of those members were already in other shells YET they left for they're own reasons and joined your shell.

So don't sit there and accuse US of stealing ur people we announced it and asked them to join PERIOD.

We do what other shells do when they want to start a new venture we recruit and if people leave another ls to join us that choice was made by the member and the blame / responsibility falls to that member and not the shells officers

Ah, see thats not exactly what happened.
Pretty much what Zer said sums it up. Right now, it sounds like you want to point the finger at someone. You sound like you are pointing the finger at your own members. That for one thing, is something a leader should not do.
See here's the thing. SpiftasticAdventures runs once a week. Members pretty much have the option to be in another dynamis ls if they want to for another day of the week.

The beef that she has with you and maybe other shells is that members were given a aggressive/passive ultimatum to join their end-game ls for dynamis when it was only for a different venue in the first place.
It has been a trend that we've been seeing for the past few runs.

 

[jyakotsu]

Ah, see thats not exactly what happened.
Pretty much what Zer said sums it up. Right now, it sounds like you want to point the finger at someone. You sound like you are pointing the finger at your own members. That for one thing, is something a leader should not do.
See here's the thing. SpiftasticAdventures runs once a week. Members pretty much have the option to be in another dynamis ls if they want to for another day of the week.

The beef that she has with you and maybe other shells is that members were given a aggressive/passive ultimatum to join their end-game ls for dynamis when it was only for a different venue in the first place.
It has been a trend that we've been seeing for the past few runs.

this is 100% what i was told by epitome members, they were given an unsaid ultimatum that they "needed" to join epitomes Dynamis linkshell. And rone, horrible leader for blaming ur own linkshell mates >.>.... might as well tell them that they should join other linkshells too >.>

 

[sirivalin]

Don't sit there and tell me when U started a dynamis shell u didn't ask everyone u knew to join your shell. And in all likelyhood some of those members were already in other shells YET they left for they're own reasons and joined your shell.

So don't sit there and accuse US of stealing ur people we announced it and asked them to join PERIOD.

We do what other shells do when they want to start a new venture we recruit and if people leave another ls to join us that choice was made by the member and the blame / responsibility falls to that member and not the shells officers

Actually, this is bullshit. SpiftasticAdventures from Day 1, has had few veteran Dynamis players. The veterans of Dynamis that did join, were not currently in a shell, or found, this shell time frame (Only Pacific Timeframe NA Dynamis ls I am aware of) was much easier for them. They filled a nitch needed, unlike the many countless NA Dynamis shells that pop up in NA Primetime and last 1-4 months before fading. (I know, there are many successful Primetime NA Dynsmis ls, if you have been running for awhile, that obviously wasn't directed at you). The vast Mahority of SA's members, have been Dynamis newbs. Some joining even before level 70, brand new to end game. SA has taught them, molded them into a team, had countless laughs, as thier 1st Dynamis ls. Now, some of these dedicated members, who were so happy to be a part of this team, to be given an opportunity to do Dynamis at a time that was easier on them...who joined a Dynamis ls, knowing full well it is an end game ls that requires dedication...are now told basically "hey guys, we're doing Dynamis now, so we feel you'll be a committed member, as you have been, cause committed members are welcome, but uncommitted members should drop thier pearl...so join our Dynamis."

SA has had a lot of growing pains...assholes who join up for gear, just to vanish, a Ninja lotter expierence...but it has become what we hoped it would. It has a core membership, of a group trained to do Dynamis together, who truly have a Spiftastic Adventure every run. Now, some want to be major end game shell trys to upstart Dynamis, offhandidly tells its members, many who got thier expierence with Dynamis in the very linkshells they are in, they need to run with them, or run the risk of being considered "uncommitted". Me and Arch funded this ls from its start, because of growing pains, and a crashing economy, I now have less coins than when I started. I'd do it all again in a heartbeat. Arch himself takes more pride in what his ls achieves, what his members get, in the small fights to overcome a previous hurdle, then he ever could from attaining a piece of AF.

So you sir, are a dick. Don't even try to turn the table and say "Oh but you did it " bullshit, because that is really grasping for straws. You failed at how you set up your internal Dynamis ls, no one has said end game shells shouldn't move into other activities...it is the how in question. You failed, and by your own words, have shown you failed. So, either fix the issue at hand, and make it clear to your members they are in no way, shape, or form obligated to join your Dynamis shell, or shut the fuck up. This flame was created to vent, and bring this issue to light (as we have found other shells have had similar headaches, and see some shells have done this painlessly), and you have already said in your own words, clear as day, that it was a choice of be committed to you and your shell, or drop your pearl.

SA will miss the members that had to move on, but will welcome them back with open arms, if you fail.

 

[Ajs]

Well, I got to page 8 and realized this thread wasn't delivering, so here's my 2 cents, as a former Dynamis leader.


In theory, a full end-game shell will run Dynamis within itself, along with every other end-game event. Look at some of the big LSs across servers, like BG for instance. These shells do everything, and by running Dynamis they make their shell more powerful for other events.

Unfortunately, 95% of LSs won't see majority of end-game. Dynamis requires more people than other areas (such as sky). The average LS won't have enough people to run Dynamis, and that's why there's so many open Dynamis LSs.


It's been 4 months since I quit so my knowledge on end-game isn't what it once was, but I don't think I've ever heard of your shell. That probably means it sucks, and you're probably in no way capable of running Dynamis within yourself. I could be wrong, but I'd prefer to assume I'm right for now ;D

ps. I wouldn't trust a leader who can't spell "you".

 

[Rone]

this is 100% what i was told by epitome members, they were given an unsaid ultimatum that they "needed" to join epitomes Dynamis linkshell. And rone, horrible leader for blaming ur own linkshell mates >.>.... might as well tell them that they should join other linkshells too >.>

HAHHA we gave no such ultimatum IF we did we would have fewer members as of today. I don't know who ur getting ur information from BUT the MAJORITY knows we PREFER them to do dynamis with us but it's it's not possible fine we'll deal with it. (IF there are a few members who got the idea it was an ulitmatum I"M CLEARING IT UP NOW there IS NO ULTIMATUM!) And yes there are a few people who do events with other shells as long as the 2 shells don't end up CC each other which at this point is has not then there is no problem.

I'm blaming my linkshell members how? by telling them the choice to do dynamis with is theirs? that's just plain ignorant. people play this game and choose their freinds and choose they're LS's I'm simply stating the obvious that in the end it is the members choice.

 

[jyakotsu]

Actually, this is bullshit. SpiftasticAdventures from Day 1, has had few veteran Dynamis players. The veterans of Dynamis that did join, were not currently in a shell, or found, this shell time frame (Only Pacific Timeframe NA Dynamis ls I am aware of) was much easier for them. They filled a nitch needed, unlike the many countless NA Dynamis shells that pop up in NA Primetime and last 1-4 months before fading. (I know, there are many successful Primetime NA Dynsmis ls, if you have been running for awhile, that obviously wasn't directed at you). The vast Mahority of SA's members, have been Dynamis newbs. Some joining even before level 70, brand new to end game. SA has taught them, molded them into a team, had countless laughs, as thier 1st Dynamis ls. Now, some of these dedicated members, who were so happy to be a part of this team, to be given an opportunity to do Dynamis at a time that was easier on them...who joined a Dynamis ls, knowing full well it is an end game ls that requires dedication...are now told basically "hey guys, we're doing Dynamis now, so we feel you'll be a committed member, as you have been, cause committed members are welcome, but uncommitted members should drop thier pearl...so join our Dynamis."

SA has had a lot of growing pains...assholes who join up for gear, just to vanish, a Ninja lotter expierence...but it has become what we hoped it would. It has a core membership, of a group trained to do Dynamis together, who truly have a Spiftastic Adventure every run. Now, some want to be major end game shell trys to upstart Dynamis, offhandidly tells its members, many who got thier expierence with Dynamis in the very linkshells they are in, they need to run with them, or run the risk of being considered "uncommitted". Me and Arch funded this ls from its start, because of growing pains, and a crashing economy, I now have less coins than when I started. I'd do it all again in a heartbeat. Arch himself takes more pride in what his ls achieves, what his members get, in the small fights to overcome a previous hurdle, then he ever could from attaining a piece of AF.

So you sir, are a dick. Don't even try to turn the table and say "Oh but you did it " bullshit, because that is really grasping for straws. You failed at how you set up your internal Dynamis ls, no one has said end game shells shouldn't move into other activities...it is the how in question. You failed, and by your own words, have shown you failed. So, either fix the issue at hand, and make it clear to your members they are in no way, shape, or form obligated to join your Dynamis shell, or shut the fuck up. This flame was created to vent, and bring this issue to light (as we have found other shells have had similar headaches, and see some shells have done this painlessly), and you have already said in your own words, clear as day, that it was a choice of be committed to you and your shell, or drop your pearl.

SA will miss the members that had to move on, but will welcome them back with open arms, if you fail.

Siri this has been my point that ive tried to get across. Rone has made it so that many suffer at the cost of making himself stronger... i think rae called it "Selfishness" AY RONE why not steal Members from Sea shells too... Oh wait you dont have sea do ya.

 

[Rone]

Siri this has been my point that ive tried to get across. Rone has made it so that many suffer at the cost of making himself stronger... i think rae called it "Selfishness" AY RONE why not steal Members from Sea shells too... Oh wait you dont have sea do ya.

HAHAH as a matter of fact I do and we do run limbus as well.

 

[jyakotsu]

HAHHA we gave no such ultimatum IF we did we would have fewer members as of today. I don't know who ur getting ur information from BUT the MAJORITY knows we PREFER them to do dynamis with us but it's it's not possible fine we'll deal with it. (IF there are a few members who got the idea it was an ulitmatum I"M CLEARING IT UP NOW there IS NO ULTIMATUM!) And yes there are a few people who do events with other shells as long as the 2 shells don't end up CC each other which at this point is has not then there is no problem.

I'm blaming my linkshell members how? by telling them the choice to do dynamis with is theirs? that's just plain ignorant. people play this game and choose their freinds and choose they're LS's I'm simply stating the obvious that in the end it is the members choice.

Quoted and recorded. I'll remember the quote you have just stated

 

[Rone]

Quoted and recorded. I'll remember the quote you have just stated

Qoute it and repeat it to who ever u want that's the only damn reason I even replied to this post is to CLEAR IT UP.


Are we done now? Are u guys happy? U can tell ur members to come back if that's what they want our shell will respect they're wishes BUT before you flame us again I suggest you talk to the officers first instead of making a big specticle out of the subject.

 

[jyakotsu]

HAHAH as a matter of fact I do and we do run limbus as well.

For a leader dude, you have the maturity of a 6 year old. I know you are but what am I responses were so 2 days ago. Pick up your lower lip from the ground, and act your age. As a leader of a "Mature" linkshell one would think you could come up with retorts longer than 1-2 lines... Grow the fuck up

 

[Artem]

This had potential somewhere half way through, but failed miserably soon after, so on such notice I'd like to pc+1.

grow epeen grow

 

[jyakotsu]

Qoute it and repeat it to who ever u want that's the only damn reason I even replied to this post is to CLEAR IT UP.


Are we done now? Are u guys happy? U can tell ur members to come back if that's what they want our shell will respect they're wishes BUT before you flame us again I suggest you talk to the officers first instead of making a big specticle out of the subject.

LOL is that a threat sir? because last i checked, THREATS ARE NO JOKE. LOL Rone, you havent changed a bit. You were a loser back then, and still are. Your linkshell might be good, but the leader is weak.


*EDIT*
Wouldnt be the first time u poached members from other linkshells now would it. Isnt it true when u called Aerial Nexus a bunch of fucktards, and left because mommy didnt breast feed u enough on Egear. You tried to undermine them and recruit all their Mages/tanks/DD? wasnt it you that told them that AN was a bunch of fucktard screw ups cuz they didnt kiss u at night and give you the "Gear you deserved" from the Gods they popped? Grow up

 

[Rone]

For a leader dude, you have the maturity of a 6 year old. I know you are but what am I responses were so 2 days ago. Pick up your lower lip from the ground, and act your age. As a leader of a "Mature" linkshell one would think you could come up with retorts longer than 1-2 lines... Grow the fuck up

U were being sarcastic so my response was sarcastic? what u can't take what u dish out? One another note stop going off topic the topic was dynamis and I think I just settled. There's nothing left to discuss.