Fair warning for party leaders...

romperstomper said:
Sorry I did not understand your response to me as the above post was less coherent then the one I used the image for. Please try not to fail as hard next time; if you can not stop failing then please fail on an even higher level of fail than the one you are currently on.
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romperstomper said:
Curaga, Divine Seal, more MND for better white mage enfeebles (slow, dia, paralyze), and AoE bar spells. Also re-raise. I'm sure there are some other things I'm missing.
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bla bla bla... bla bla bla BLA! thats what im hearing from you.

Tristam Green said:
I got news, pal. Nobody likes what they see in this flame (someone who is about three bricks short of a load, if you ask me).
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you're right no one like what they see this flame. but if its about me, i'll have something to say about it. so if it have nothing to do with you. why put your mouth in where it dont belong?

Silenus said:
Dammit, I had hopes that the guy that was trying to level RDM to 75 without a subjob would be adventurous and unique; turns out he's just a burned out /butthurt asshat.
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wow another hater/loser... anymore? i think im a pretty nice guy.... you dont bother me, i wont bother you. :cool: but too bad this world of qcdn got too many people with nothing better to do. :shok:
 
krazyt said:
bla bla bla... bla bla bla BLA! thats what im hearing from you.



you're right no one like what they see this flame. but if its about me, i'll have something to say about it. so if it have nothing to do with you. why put your mouth in where it dont belong?



wow another hater/loser... anymore? i think im a pretty nice guy.... you dont bother me, i wont bother you. :cool: but too bad this world of qcdn got too many people with nothing better to do. :shok:
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What because I raise valid points and you're too much of a fucking moron to come up with any sort of retort when someone calls you a god damn failure? Sorry but you just failed even harder, but barely. If you're going to fail so hard at least make it funny like Hellstorm does.
 
Everyone has raised valid points. A subjob on rdm can be nice, though most spells and abilities are after 30 on up. Divine seal being lv 30 as SJ. The most quoted spell being erase is not there till lv 64. Reraise is i think lv 66. Some stat boosts with SJ, but gear and food can give stat boosts. To me you get the most out of your subjob on rdm at 60+. Having it earlier just makes the job so much easier, but the same could be said at having 2 sets of gear for convert and after.
The flame began by someone who only saw no subjob. He did not level with the rdm to be able to say if it effect him. The people that did exp said the rdm did everything he was invited to party to do. This rdm has 4 other characters all with subjobs. the exp they got with him as his SJless rdm was fine. The party did not complain it is everyone else that has never exped with him that voiced negative comments. So lets let the Flame die~ It was weak to start with and was just a battle of opinions. Besides with campaign now does it really matter?
 
Even despite all that, I treat the fact he's doing this with the same question I ask of someone maximizing a build for a melee Blm -


WHY
 
Keryan said:
Everyone has raised valid points. A subjob on rdm can be nice, though most spells and abilities are after 30 on up. Divine seal being lv 30 as SJ. The most quoted spell being erase is not there till lv 64. Reraise is i think lv 66. Some stat boosts with SJ, but gear and food can give stat boosts. To me you get the most out of your subjob on rdm at 60+. Having it earlier just makes the job so much easier, but the same could be said at having 2 sets of gear for convert and after.
The flame began by someone who only saw no subjob. He did not level with the rdm to be able to say if it effect him. The people that did exp said the rdm did everything he was invited to party to do. This rdm has 4 other characters all with subjobs. the exp they got with him as his SJless rdm was fine. The party did not complain it is everyone else that has never exped with him that voiced negative comments. So lets let the Flame die~ It was weak to start with and was just a battle of opinions. Besides with campaign now does it really matter?
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*facepalm*

You realize that after 60 or 62 your main job stats stop increasing correct? Then it becomes every time your sub levels with you on an even level you get stat boosts.

You are right that food gives stat boosts, but you do realize that a lot of the stat boosts are minimal at best seeing as though when you're using food you usually use the food for some other beneficial buff like accuracy or attack. The minimal stat boosts will probably put you at what a subjob would give stat wise where as other people even with a gimped subjob will have higher stats than you. Not to forget more mp/hp and more beneficial abilities.
 
My question is why? What could you possibly accomplish by leveling a RDM without a subjob? The accomplishment of leveling a job to 75 without a sub? You're getting a PL so it's not even a REAL accomplishment. Do BCNM, NM, etc. as 75RDM/0SUB? You can do the subjob trick and remove your sub at any time. So why? I really honestly just don't get why you'd go 75 levels just to say "Hey, I gimped 75 levels, lolz."
 
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