Fleist

And thus, Fleist himself as well as Audino come and shoot down the OP quite summarily, alongside some beautiful icing from Lanien.

Mmm, Lanien's icing.

Er, wait... uh... crap, I didn't say that >. >
 
Tagrineth said:
And thus, Fleist himself as well as Audino come and shoot down the OP quite summarily, alongside some beautiful icing from Lanien.
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I'm not trying to shoot anyone down, I'm just giving out the facts. I do think it was slightly disappointing how nothing was sorted out ahead of time since you don't need special permission to be able to view the scheduling forum.
 
Audino said:
For whatever reason, none of the Admins on this site have added him and I'm not sure if any have to this date.
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They've been too busy moderating signatures so that people with only dial-up access can still enjoy the boards.

This isn't a shitty flame, just misplaced. Blame the mods...its not goddamn rocket science to grant someone a membership. Still waiting on another forum to be fixed as well. Perhaps forum permissions are more difficult than I ascertained. If Fleist was properly granted access, the controversial run would have been public knowledge, and warnings would have been granted prior to the run.
 
When I plan for dynamis runs if I see a run behind me that I know I might run into I send the leaders a tell in game so that they can prepare as a courtesy.

I think the biggest issue here is that everyone knows the schedules are public access but Fleist's shell didn't care. Yes, it rquired a little more work on his part, but he could have easily sent Dani or I a message saying there was a small chance they'd impeed on our schedule.

I was at work when this happened. I was not present in the game. I was not there for the conversations, but I do know that when there was a chance we would impeed on RoR's time we told them. We actually got out 4 minutes before they would have entered. Rari was nice about it and we worked it out. Fleist apparently from what I can see and hear from both his members and mine, didn't care.

Weak maybe. Wrong definitely. Fixable absolutely.

I was severely dissappoint that he blamed Audino though. Audino is only a moderator and everyone in the Dynamis area knows that. And I appologized to Audino for them using him as an excuse. That was wrong and I'd hope someone in their shell would appologize for that.
 
Kimaara said:
"Fleist and co." was asked to leave that I recall. Also, Fleist was present during the run but had to leave a bit early for a family obligation. To attack his leadership over that doesnt make sense. Also there was no ill intent on how long our run went. We werent out to get Absolute. You go to Dynamis.. sometimes you get the win, sometimes you dont, but I dont know anyone that kicks out their LS in the middle cause they ran into someone's time slot. I've been on the other end waiting. Our half hour or so into your timeslot is regrettable. When you have a bunch of mobs all on you, it just isnt realistic to have everyone suddenly drop their glasses. It just appears that somewhere along the line there was some kind of scheduling miscommunication. I'm sorry your shell was disbanded and that you had to wait a little bit to enter but I feel that if we were any other shell, we wouldnt have been flamed.

Kimaara
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Actually the last shell to do this same thing was a JP shell and they were flamed by Limitless or Encore if I remember right. Either way, the schedule was posted by Jan 1. A heads up would have alleviated this whole mess.

I am glad your group is doing better than expected.
 
jamal said:
If Fleist was properly granted access, the controversial run would have been public knowledge, and warnings would have been granted prior to the run.
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Jamal, if he knew he needed to talk to Audino and he knew he needed access and he is the great leader everyone claims (I'm not contradicting any of this), could he have not also known that the schedules were posted by Audino and have asked if there would be any conflicts?

I can see that one extra line in the email to Audino that solves this whole problem:

"Hey this is our schedule you can post it until I have access?"

Its what I had to do back when Arturus ran this. He posted for me for two months because mods were REALLY slow back then... >.>
 
Oh and I almost forgot, Tant....

Man I give you props for stepping up and taking the blame as a leader. Shows some real brass and I'm proud of you for it.

Also, Fleist and his leaders, if you dont have access and cant post send me the schedule. I'll post it for you. I just dont want this happening again on any front.
 
This may be a scheduling issue that I know nothing about...but

Nugotugo said:
4 things...

1- i don't know how stupid you think people are but after 3 years of dealing with fleist i know for a fact you "conversation" with fleist is utter bullshit. If you want to lie for him you should not abrivate words, seeing as he never does, espically when talking to someone not within his ls no matter how badly he dislike the individual.

2-
Actually he was on from 5 till he had to leave at 7:15. Some people do have other plans or emergency's that do come up... Just because people do something besides kiss ass all day(btw would you like the ss i have of that where everyone i know can think of you as nothing but??) doesn't mean they were not there.

3-
Do you even read? His request for posting access in Dynamis scheduling was made wednesday dec 26 07. which is the same day that our January and February schedule was posted on your forum. That is 16 days since his post asking for access was made. Now, I don't know about PhP forums but if membership access on them is anything like a AD or NDS Domain it takes tops 30 seconds to add someone with membership rights... Your telling me theres 3 Site Admins and none can find 30 second to do a simple membership addition within 16 days?!?

4-

My computer crashed.... Convinent excuse... Let me guess. Theres all those black lines in the tell SS so none of the tells that utterly contradict your claims are shown right? Also, Your statement that Fleist denies responsibility... Come on... At least TRY to lie. Anyone who has ever dealt with fleist will be laughing at that. Fleist is and will be the only main leader of Dreams. And he does not say the actions of the shell are not his responsibility.


This is, and will be, my only post in this topic. The more I was reading this topic the more accurate i was seeing everyone's proclamation of Absolute. As such i will not waste any more time on you.
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I have known Dani since I began playing the game, and can utterly vouch for her character. To call her a liar is a bunch of crap, and, in all honesty, if you put her up against 99.9% of the people I know in this game, her word would still beat theirs.

So, even though I am not personally involved in this, take your accusatory lying bullshit tone and shove it.

Feiid

(Providing retarded posts since the get go. 14 and counting!!!)
 
I counter your friend defense with.....THE FRIEND DEFENSE. Oh snap, I won.
 
People... talk about FFXI activities on AIM outside of FFXI? Hardcore troopers, I salute you.
 
Before any more errors are made, I am not a moderator. All I did was volunteer to help organize the schedules that are posted in the dynamis forum and get them done in a timely fashion. I sincerely doubt that anyone I've dealt with for the last two months would say I've done otherwise. My name's in black just like most of you. I never asked to be a moderator and I wouldn't want to be a moderator because I'd hate not being able to post the things that I really want to say, lol. With that being said...

Lecreuset said:
That poor thing...
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How fucking funny it is someone from JDA is putting in little quips in a thread about people taking up zones when they were scheduled. No, scheduling on here doesn't guarantee you the zone. It is a courtesy. Whats funny is that the shell that took our zones and Pers's zones many times on saturdays had a handful of people in there that could speak and read pretty good fucking English and never did shit to try and work something out.
 
Achates said:
When I plan for dynamis runs if I see a run behind me that I know I might run into I send the leaders a tell in game so that they can prepare as a courtesy.

I think the biggest issue here is that everyone knows the schedules are public access but Fleist's shell didn't care. Yes, it rquired a little more work on his part, but he could have easily sent Dani or I a message saying there was a small chance they'd impeed on our schedule.

I was at work when this happened. I was not present in the game. I was not there for the conversations, but I do know that when there was a chance we would impeed on RoR's time we told them. We actually got out 4 minutes before they would have entered. Rari was nice about it and we worked it out. Fleist apparently from what I can see and hear from both his members and mine, didn't care.

Weak maybe. Wrong definitely. Fixable absolutely.

I was severely dissappoint that he blamed Audino though. Audino is only a moderator and everyone in the Dynamis area knows that. And I appologized to Audino for them using him as an excuse. That was wrong and I'd hope someone in their shell would appologize for that.
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I swear to God, people like you ruin this game. They did see the god damn schedule and that is the reason they went at 5. To me, 3 hours is a pretty damn good chunk of time to finish Dynamis, but they went a little over. Can you honestly say you believe they did this intentionally as you have all been claiming it was? The funny part about this is the schedule they were submitting to Audino probably had them listed at 5. The best part about that though is you probably still would complain like little bitches even if it was posted for everyone to see.
 
If I were to make a Dynamis run and out of spite keep another shell from going, I'd go in a little more than an hour before thier timeslot, not three. From all of the posts here, Fleist and Co. seem like standup people. Dani, you just look vindictive.
 
Audino said:
Before any more errors are made, I am not a moderator. All I did was volunteer to help organize the schedules that are posted in the dynamis forum and get them done in a timely fashion. I sincerely doubt that anyone I've dealt with for the last two months would say I've done otherwise. My name's in black just like most of you. I never asked to be a moderator and I wouldn't want to be a moderator because I'd hate not being able to post the things that I really want to say, lol. With that being said...



How fucking funny it is someone from JDA is putting in little quips in a thread about people taking up zones when they were scheduled. No, scheduling on here doesn't guarantee you the zone. It is a courtesy. Whats funny is that the shell that took our zones and Pers's zones many times on saturdays had a handful of people in there that could speak and read pretty good fucking English and never did shit to try and work something out.
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Before you start nitpicking at Lec you should at least know his background check. He wasn't in JDA when that incident occurred, nor was it the JDA shell that interfered with your dynamis run, it was OneWingAngel. was it led by a JDA leader, yes, were JDA members in it, yes. But it was more than just JDA members it was japanese players from all shells not just JDA. You people are so quick to lump people into groups that you don't even look or think about what you're saying you just wanna make others look bad.
 
Yay more frosting from Lanien
 
I am not posting to comment on the Dreams / Absolute situation. I am not involved. I am, however, involved in RidersOfRohan.
Hormiga said:
If they happened to run over when they were actually scheduled to be there at 5 that would be one thing. But they weren't. A few weeks ago Absolute moved a run to Sandy because we didn't have the numbers to do another zone. RoR was scheduled to enter at midnight but we could have gotten the time extension and run over into their time. Are you saying that would be ok? It's ok to be on someone else's time and they just have to deal with it? Why do we have a schedule at all if no one needs to adhere to posted times?
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Dani/Absoulte,

While RidersOfRohan appreciates Absolute leaving in a timely manner, the above post implies several things. Those implications are:

-Absolute acknowledges the Dynamis schedule posted on QCDN.
-Observing said schedule, Absolute knew who would enter Dynamis-San d’Oria and when. (Using In-game communication hours before another shell’s run, in comparison to posting in advance on QCDN, as an attempt at justification, or putting forth effort, is as messed up as Hogan’s goat. Do not use it.)
-Absolute acknowledges it deviated from the posted schedule that they requested. The reason is not pertinent. Internal conflicts belong to that shell, not the FFXI community.
-Changing to another zone at the last moment results in a later entrance/exit time than what was scheduled.
-Absolute(Dani) acknowledges infringing upon another LS’s scheduled time is unjust.

By your own accord, if Absolute had stayed in a zone that they were not scheduled for in the first place, and encroached upon another LinkShell’s scheduled time, Absolute would have been in the wrong. Again, thank you for exiting before RidersOfRohan was to enter. But in the future, please adhere to the requests you are asking of other linkshells and reconsider Absolute’s options when making last minute changes.

RidersOfRohan respects the posted schedule and other shells’ time. It only asks for the same in return.
 
Blazeoffury said:
You people
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YOU PEOPLE!? What's that supposed to mean nakka.

All jokes aside.

From reading this it just looks like a innocent mix up.

Like a lot of people have said, if they really wanted to fuck you over they would or started at like 7:00 not at 5:00. Not their fault that they had good luck with farming and got all of the time extensions down fast.
 
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