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Algarius said:
xKronox said:
How would you feel if you broke your legs and gave your care to a friend of yours.
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Fact is it's not even your car, it's a car handled to you from your work, and when they find out you gave it to your friend after you leave your job, they take it back.
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If you had a contract with your employer that said the car was yours, and the standard employer/employee contract changed after the fact, you would still have a valid contract and the car would still be yours.

If, at the time Delite obtained his Osode, the ls rules were that members got to keep all their items, as he states, then it is, in fact, his Osode, and any later changes to the LS rules are inapplicable.

Bottom line: It doesn't matter what your current LS rules are. It doesn't matter whether or not he earned it, or whether or not you think he earned it. If it was decided that it was his to keep at the time he was given it, it's his.
 
Ithenas said:
alg i love your "Nobody who leaves the shell earned anything the left with" mentality, sorta reminds me of a failed political system.
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it's more working this way, with 2 theorical list one in another, 1 of them is people that would be more help for the LS if they had the stuff, the other one is plainly dedication. To fully earn something, you gotta be above everyone in the Dedication list without the item. I would personally couldn't be happy leaving the shell with more than i derserved, and would hate myself to do so. And yes, I had the oportunity because at some points i had received more shit than I deserved.

And since i am on top of the dedication list, I hold grudge against anyone that leave the LS keeping more shit with them than I ever got from the LS or talk shit about us and saying they deserved more shit than me.
 
so your saying that because you have the ability to show up at everything you're the only person who deserves anything from the shell? Delite's right, you're a greedy bastard.


*this has no standing on this post but i saw it while i was digging around and it rofled my waffles, so i thought i'd share it*

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Drystyn said:
Algarius said:
xKronox said:
How would you feel if you broke your legs and gave your care to a friend of yours.
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Fact is it's not even your car, it's a car handled to you from your work, and when they find out you gave it to your friend after you leave your job, they take it back.
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If you had a contract with your employer that said the car was yours, and the standard employer/employee contract changed after the fact, you would still have a valid contract and the car would still be yours.

If, at the time Delite obtained his Osode, the ls rules were that members got to keep all their items, as he states, then it is, in fact, his Osode, and any later changes to the LS rules are inapplicable.

Bottom line: It doesn't matter what your current LS rules are. It doesn't matter whether or not he earned it, or whether or not you think he earned it. If it was decided that it was his to keep at the time he was given it, it's his.
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Clarity is a wonderful thing.
 
Firestreak said:
It takes 30 people 2 weeks of worth to create an Osode on average. LS don't sell Osodes, they give to members. Let's say of those 30 people, 15 can't wear Osode because they are mages or Paladins. Let's say they get something else, mind you not as valuable. Still to get all 15 people who originally helped you an Osode who wanted one, it will take around 7 months. That means if you were the last person in line for an Osode on the very first run, on the 7th month or so you'll get your Osode. To say in 3 months someone totally deserves an Osode and it is theirs to keep is lunacy.

If you think that means giving Osodes to people who need it more and hoping they stay until everyone who helped them get their Osode has one is a form of communism, then I suppose that you'll be selling all your Osodes and splitting evenly, until every member of your LS who wants an Osode can afford to just buy their own? Until then Kirins will be a little long but what can we say... at least you won't have to trust people?
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so, how many osodes in your shell are currently being distributed around for "borrow" and how many osodes in your shell is actually owned by one individual?

Drystyn said:
If, at the time Delite obtained his Osode, the ls rules were that members got to keep all their items, as he states, then it is, in fact, his Osode, and any later changes to the LS rules are inapplicable.

Bottom line: It doesn't matter what your current LS rules are. It doesn't matter whether or not he earned it, or whether or not you think he earned it. If it was decided that it was his to keep at the time he was given it, it's his.
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and i absolutely totally agree with this.

potatOWNED!!!
 
Ithenas said:
so your saying that because you have the ability to show up at everything you're the only person who deserves anything from the shell? Delite's right, you're a greedy bastard.
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you read me wrong, what i said is no one got the right to leave the LS with more stuff than I got from the shell, since no one got more dedication than me
 
If you had a contract with your employer that said the car was yours, and the standard employer/employee contract changed after the fact, you would still have a valid contract and the car would still be yours.

If, at the time Delite obtained his Osode, the ls rules were that members got to keep all their items, as he states, then it is, in fact, his Osode, and any later changes to the LS rules are inapplicable.

Bottom line: It doesn't matter what your current LS rules are. It doesn't matter whether or not he earned it, or whether or not you think he earned it. If it was decided that it was his to keep at the time he was given it, it's his.
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You see, if you need Osodes for your LS Rangers, may I suggest you guys fight Kirin? Just because some elite mother-fuckers like myself tread here does not make the FlameBoard sky. If you want to outfit your rangers with Osodes you'll need to go to the actual sky, I think you are confused.

As for any serious talk, I think it's pretty pointless on this thread. People spouting out arguments about people owning shit and people not having any obligation have no place in a talk about SKY LS and a talk about a 40+ million gil item.

Now I am not saying Delite didn't earn jack shit. But I must say besides the Osode he has been well compensated. And if he ever returned he could get another osode for HIMSELF to use in LS. And a few months down the line he'd have earned it to the point he could sell it on EBAY for all I care.
 
Algarius said:
Ithenas said:
so your saying that because you have the ability to show up at everything you're the only person who deserves anything from the shell? Delite's right, you're a greedy bastard.
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you read me wrong, what i said is no one got the right to leave the LS with more stuff than I got from the shell, since no one got more dedication than me
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you're measuring dedication simply in terms of time, but i think most people will agree w/ me that that isn't th eonly factor in dedication.

In terms of XP lost in the shell who was the most dedicated? Me
in terms of people recruited who was the most dedicated? delite
in terms of time who was the most dedicated? you
in terms of expendables spent who was th emost dedicated? probably DC or Jonas

just saying that "I'm the most dedicated cause i have the ability to show up when others sometimes don't" is short sighted and very selfish
 
ith stfu its obvious nobody likes you and delite isnt going to give you anything because of it. i mean, i have a better chance as a lvl 52 pld of getting the osode.
 
Anyways, this discussion is pointless cause Delite never owned the osode, but Ithenas' greed took over his mind and decided to flame us. I am sorry for him but as much bitching as he will do won't do him any good because OUR Osode will stay in the LS. And outsiders from the shell saying "it was Delite's osode" don't know jack and won't change anything either. But I must say this talk was actually entertaining and I had a good laugh lol, I don't stay awake till almost 7am very often, and need something very entertaining to do so or I fall asleep. Thank you all for the entertainment.
 
Firestreak said:
If you had a contract with your employer that said the car was yours, and the standard employer/employee contract changed after the fact, you would still have a valid contract and the car would still be yours.

If, at the time Delite obtained his Osode, the ls rules were that members got to keep all their items, as he states, then it is, in fact, his Osode, and any later changes to the LS rules are inapplicable.

Bottom line: It doesn't matter what your current LS rules are. It doesn't matter whether or not he earned it, or whether or not you think he earned it. If it was decided that it was his to keep at the time he was given it, it's his.
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You see, if you need Osodes for your LS Rangers, may I suggest you guys fight Kirin? Just because some elite mother-fuckers like myself tread here does not make the FlameBoard sky. If you want to outfit your rangers with Osodes you'll need to go to the actual sky, I think you are confused.

As for any serious talk, I think it's pretty pointless on this thread. People spouting out arguments about people owning shit and people not having any obligation have no place in a talk about SKY LS and a talk about a 40+ million gil item.

Now I am not saying Delite didn't earn jack shit. But I must say besides the Osode he has been well compensated. And if he ever returned he could get another osode for HIMSELF to use in LS. And a few months down the line he'd have earned it to the point he could sell it on EBAY for all I care.
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firestreak this has nothing to do w/ ESP's capability of killing kirin, and nice way to make youself look like a dickhead too the "Just because i tread here doesn't make this place sky" thing is extremely arogant. This is about my getting an item that was given to my by a friend, the fact that i let wowzer use it until my rng was 75 doesn't make it any less mine. this has nothing to do w/ r-esp and i'm not gonna let you drag them into it.
 
well it looks like you got punked bitch!


/j #livewithit

kthx
 
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