CmdrFly said:
the cost of the HQ has not moved if anything it will move down.
Is raising prices of items that bad !?
the cost of the HQ has not moved if anything it will move down.
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Where did I say iron ingots? I said nothing about iron ingots, and have no idea where you got that. I said darksteel ore and iron ore to make ingots. 1 darksteel ore + 3 iron ore + fire crystal is one darksteel ore. You also stated that darksteel chains don't sell at the AH, and that you had to make your own, yet used the AH price for them.Yoshindor said:
If you only have 30 minutes to play each day, then you're gonna have a difficult time crafting HQ, assuming you log on at the same time each day.
If you want to explain your costs by saying that you can't spend an extra 5 minutes buying materials from the AH and doing an extra 4 synths per celeta, people are gonna call BS on you. You don't need to run around everywhere to find iron ore, darksteel ore, and fire crystals. They sell them at the jeuno AH.
Stouter said:
No I listed the cost of what it takes to buy 2 ingots and make them into a chain. 2 ingots at 45 K each = 90 K
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Stouter said:
Thats fine they can call BS all they wan't they have the time to spend makeing erronious amounts of shit I don't. They can't do anything about it.
Don't like don't buy it. Why do you even care this isn't affecting you. You just seem to like to cry over things just to cry.
Sirelrohir said:
I asked if it was "that bad" the way people are acting you'd think I took a dump on a crusifix and wiped my ass with the popes garments.
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You come in here trying to justify yourself for jacking up the price of an item, and saying how much it costs to make. I'm just stating that someone skilling up off that item can easily make a profit on it, making the NQ. Coming in here and telling everyone the synth level and materials used only invites competition when they look at the info you give. I'm just stating the obvious, and trying to figure out why you even posted this here.Yoshindor said:
ps - you come in here asking people's opinions, then bitch about those that don't agree with you, who's the one that's crying?
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its sad that you are broke enough to have to synth these for a living and wanna cry in the thread
neophytal said:its sad that you are broke enough to have to synth these for a living and wanna cry in the thread
Yes little troll, you know how big my bank roll is. . .
You apparently know everything.
GTFO and go back to going down on Kisada.
Stouter said:
I have yet to cry, I came here asking peoples opinions and it started off fairly nice till the troll and nooblets came in and started calling me greedy ect. My whole intent of this thread is to why people are soo opposed to crafter recovering their money!?
Bajaratt said:
No. They get what they can for the product which is exactly what I am doing.
Don't think for a miniuet if they could they wouldn't charge more for the NQ's to cover breaks and NQ's for profit. Due to market flooding and the amount of crafter pumping out the product the price is good for the consumer not the crafter. This has nothing to do with toughing it out. This is all about how much you can get for a product!
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I don't think that's really the problem.Yoshindor said:
Sellers have cultivated a buyers market for certain things.
What I mean is that there are crafters who willingly sell stuff way under material cost (even if farming for mats), just to get rid of the synth. To those people it simply doesn't matter that they lose millions on crafting, because they have absolutely nothing else to spend cash on.
It's like other people in this thread said already. If the market can support whatever you raised the price to, then it will stay at that level, otherwise the price will drop again. No one person is able to control the market.
No matter what the price if a crafted item, there will always be someone to complain about that it is too expensive. My solution to this has always been "Bring me the components needed, pay a fee, and I will craft it for you.". Those who like the convinience of the AH will just have to put up with whatever the pricing is at the time.
Sculli said:
Finally someone who can see this objectively and I can have an actual conversation with. Rather than haveing them shout "greedy batserd" at me because I'm simply getting what I can for my items.
No one is forceing you to buy my items.
I'd like to see how this server got along if the crafters stopped crafting because we get sick of peoples bullshit.
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The bottom line:
IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE PRICE, DONT BUY IT. MAKE YOUR OWN.
You bastards bitching at him for being greedy and trying to paint a picture that somehow this guy is the "root of inflation" makes me laugh. PEOPLE THAT PURCHASE HIS ITEMS AT AN INFLATED PRICE, is the cause of ALL inflation.
IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE PRICE, DONT BUY IT. MAKE YOUR OWN.
You bastards bitching at him for being greedy and trying to paint a picture that somehow this guy is the "root of inflation" makes me laugh. PEOPLE THAT PURCHASE HIS ITEMS AT AN INFLATED PRICE, is the cause of ALL inflation.
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Lockstar said:
All haters need a scape goat.
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Blowy said:
That's like people saying I don't deserve the 60m Scwall gave me after he quit (then came back), when I helped kill the Sozu Rogberry that dropped the knife. C'mon.
Yeah i didn't read half of the thread cause I think it was just kinda going in circles, so sorry if what I'm writting has already been mentionned.
I think there are many situations in which price raise, and these situations are completly different. For example : I can understand someone raising the price of an item because it's a 100k loss when you synth it. However you do that at your own risk...cause either people won't buy it, or someone else will sell it for cheaper, causing people not to buy it again. But that being said, I find that it's not that bad cause you're not raising the price to make profit.
However, there are the idiots that raise the price on materials that you farm. i.e the god damn freaking silk lol! I think that's just low. I mean, silk was already overpriced when it was 30k a stack (I'm talking about treads)...now it's up to ~70k last time i checked, and I'm just scared to check it again. That's just greedy and is caused by people that are selfish and only care about their own money. That's totally lame.
And there's a third kind of price jacking I've come to learn about in the last few days. I won't give out names, but I've heard from people who had a ~100 craft that they were raising the price of materials just to keep people from levelling their craft. That is OMFGfreaking the lowest and cheapest thing I have ever heard. And it's not rumors, I've heard it from these people themselves. That's has to be one of the most selfish thing I've seen on that game. Not many people level craft up to high levels. Personnally I just wanna level it to ~80 to make my friends some signed gears, I don't care about profit. But cause of greedy idiots like those people, I gotta spend 10x more gils in doing it than it would've took a while ago. Good going guys, go jump off a bridge or something.
I think there are many situations in which price raise, and these situations are completly different. For example : I can understand someone raising the price of an item because it's a 100k loss when you synth it. However you do that at your own risk...cause either people won't buy it, or someone else will sell it for cheaper, causing people not to buy it again. But that being said, I find that it's not that bad cause you're not raising the price to make profit.
However, there are the idiots that raise the price on materials that you farm. i.e the god damn freaking silk lol! I think that's just low. I mean, silk was already overpriced when it was 30k a stack (I'm talking about treads)...now it's up to ~70k last time i checked, and I'm just scared to check it again. That's just greedy and is caused by people that are selfish and only care about their own money. That's totally lame.
And there's a third kind of price jacking I've come to learn about in the last few days. I won't give out names, but I've heard from people who had a ~100 craft that they were raising the price of materials just to keep people from levelling their craft. That is OMFGfreaking the lowest and cheapest thing I have ever heard. And it's not rumors, I've heard it from these people themselves. That's has to be one of the most selfish thing I've seen on that game. Not many people level craft up to high levels. Personnally I just wanna level it to ~80 to make my friends some signed gears, I don't care about profit. But cause of greedy idiots like those people, I gotta spend 10x more gils in doing it than it would've took a while ago. Good going guys, go jump off a bridge or something.
Dowzer said:
I dunno, is this Yoshindor, or his brother still? If its his brother, it's not similiar Dowzer, as he was given a free crafting account.
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Yoshindor said:
Then why the hell are you jacking the prices or even doing anything on the game? If you don't like losing gil don't synth just farm so you make profits. Time is money yes I know that, but if he's bitching about something and he's quitting come the end of the month well then IT SHOULDNT MATTER TO YOU. Just uninstall XI now and quit for good or go to another server. Personally I don't care because you're stupid I'm canceling my account, but I'll in turn jack up the prices to screw everyone else like everyone's screwed me because people don't like me so fuck them. What you really need to do is get a better look on life XI isn't everything neither is gil. You don't like losing your gil don't craft I've put in money to Alchemy which can be very expensive. I've spent millions on it to turn a small profit because I've found something that everyone uses.