its official, rng was nerfed.

well yeah, with guns close range would better.... but from my experience, most rangers i have played with use Bows mostly....so...
 
They could of gone about this update so many other ways... ie just lowering the damage of range attacks, making our range accuracy trait ranged attack only so rangers stop meleeing.. but w/e
 
Marajade said:
Taurothar said:
Koutetsu said:
how many archers stand right in their opponents faces to shoot arrows at them?

This makes perfect sense to me. Then again, i prefer things to make sense.... thats why i am so angry when i walk into a store, and the NPC's are there, only to tell me "Today is our holiday" WELL WHY ARE YOU HERE IN THE STORE!!!
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That is one of my biggest pet peeves.

RNG STOP BITCHING!!! In every other incarnation of a ranger, there is a penalty for shooting up close, because well, you cannot simply draw a bow point blank and expect it to be very powerful. I expect if more testing is done, this won't be *that* big of a deal, and you're overreacting to a lot. I play RNG as my secondary job, it's only 37 at the moment, but from the way I play RNG, which is farther back and not on the mob's ass, it won't affect me much.
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Makes sense with Bows, but what about Guns? I'd expect them to be better from close than far (Old style guns were horrible from range, because the bullets were not uniformed in shape)
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Agreed. I think Guns shouldn't be that bad from up close, but still not perfect when you're practically getting a piggy back ride from the mob. The range for guns should be shorter, like SE said, it will vary depending on the type of weapon you use.
 
Wow...all that goddamn money to be turned into "just another melee DMG dealer". Even from a far....Wow....wow...wow amazing. Whiney ass cheapos FTW.
 
Strid... on your sig, it says your retired from FFXI, so why do you care?
 
i dont understan why its not fun anymore.... because distance actually effects the game now?

So your all saying "Wow, this gravity stuff sucks!" because its all physics.... go outside with a bow and arrow, stand right next to a tree, and see how much damage you do to a tree....

why do people get mad when they make something a little more realistic....

I know its a fantasy game... but even in fantasy worlds, most physics still apply.
 
Strid said:
Whiney ass cheapos FTW.
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Or elitist snots for the loss. It's all about perspective. Many rangers clearly abused their positions by mocking meleers and ignoring their party flags. "I only party with 3 rangers" is MOSTLY to blame for this nerf. Others simply got tired of it, and the developers agreed.
 
Koutetsu said:
why do people get mad when they make something a little more realistic....
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It's kind of hard to talk about realism when you have little impossibly cute midgets casting huge fireballs at skeletons. :lol:
 
Rappa said:
Koutetsu said:
why do people get mad when they make something a little more realistic....
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It's kind of hard to talk about realism when you have little impossibly cute midgets casting huge fireballs at skeletons. :lol:
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Ha ha ha

Rappa wins again!
 
Koutetsu said:
Strid... on your sig, it says your retired from FFXI, so why do you care?
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Just because an owner of a company retires doesn't mean he cares anyless for what he spent his years building. He/she usually still keeps their foot in the door or associated with it in some manner. My character was a 2 yr. (almost) investment. While I play other games mainly now it doesn't mean I don't care any less for my toon here or what I have build him too. I play occasionally and planned to finish off RNG with some friends but now it's just not even worth it.

For all of the people telling RNG to stop bitching...To you:

When you have played RNG up to at least 55, worked your ass off for the money it takes to upkeep one and to do your best as the role you are suppose to play and not cheap out THEN you need to tell RNGs to stop whining. Pure jelousy caused this and I hope you're all quiet pleased with what you've turned the RNG class into. You have no right to tell us to stop bitching you got what you wanted now go play your "up to par" melee now and have fun knowing they had to gimp a job to make you more useful.
 
Strid said:
Whiney ass cheapos FTW.
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Not everything is related to "whiney" people. I highly doubt that S-E was buried under complaints about ninjas not losing hate when they lost their shadows. S-E just tries to keep the balance in the game as best as they can (and you would have to be some kind of superhero to find a way to balance the game that didn't piss SOMEBODY off). They saw what they thought was an imbalance and this was their solution to fix it.

On a more interesting note, has anyone noticed the lack of crying from the ninjas? I checked Allakhazam's ninja forums and most of them said that by just putting a little more effort into hate control that they can still control hate just fine. Maybe the rngs need to quit complaining and get to work on figuring out how to "counter" the "nerf".
 
Rappa said:
Strid said:
Whiney ass cheapos FTW.
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Not everything is related to "whiney" people. I highly doubt that S-E was buried under complaints about ninjas not losing hate when they lost their shadows. S-E just tries to keep the balance in the game as best as they can (and you would have to be some kind of superhero to find a way to balance the game that didn't piss SOMEBODY off). They saw what they thought was an imbalance and this was their solution to fix it.

On a more interesting note, has anyone noticed the lack of crying from the ninjas? I checked Allakhazam's ninja forums and most of them said that by just putting a little more effort into hate control that they can still control hate just fine. Maybe the rngs need to quit complaining and get to work on figuring out how to "counter" the "nerf".
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Rappa 4tw.

Seriously, stop blaming Melee's for "bitching". Show me some historical posts from this website about how overpowered rangers are. I dare you to find anything more than the joke about how if you can't beat it, throw more rangers at it.
 
is it me or do you just have to STAND A BIT BACK!!! how freaking hard is it to position yourself someplace else? geez....
 
Koutetsu said:
is it me or do you just have to STAND A BIT BACK!!! how freaking hard is it to position yourself someplace else? geez....
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thats not the problem (tho in places like Kuftal tunnel {terrigan zone} or garliage basement, there isnt alot of room to stand back)

the problem lies in the WS. RNG can no longer Open a SC with a thief, because we either cant turn it, or we stand back to turn it, and it runs all over the place.
 
rng will ajust i think SE did this to give the other dd equal chance in grouping yes it might be harder in long run for exp partys but im sure rng will find a way to do ws with thfs if anything rng might have come the new thf because now you going to have to run around to get a good spot so it seems :P
 
Taurothar said:
Rappa said:
Strid said:
Whiney ass cheapos FTW.
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Not everything is related to "whiney" people. I highly doubt that S-E was buried under complaints about ninjas not losing hate when they lost their shadows. S-E just tries to keep the balance in the game as best as they can (and you would have to be some kind of superhero to find a way to balance the game that didn't piss SOMEBODY off). They saw what they thought was an imbalance and this was their solution to fix it.

On a more interesting note, has anyone noticed the lack of crying from the ninjas? I checked Allakhazam's ninja forums and most of them said that by just putting a little more effort into hate control that they can still control hate just fine. Maybe the rngs need to quit complaining and get to work on figuring out how to "counter" the "nerf".
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Rappa 4tw.

Seriously, stop blaming Melee's for "bitching". Show me some historical posts from this website about how overpowered rangers are. I dare you to find anything more than the joke about how if you can't beat it, throw more rangers at it.
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Just because it wasn't on THIS website doesn't mean it isn't true. :roll:
 
Marajade said:
Koutetsu said:
is it me or do you just have to STAND A BIT BACK!!! how freaking hard is it to position yourself someplace else? geez....
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thats not the problem (tho in places like Kuftal tunnel {terrigan zone} or garliage basement, there isnt alot of room to stand back)

the problem lies in the WS. RNG can no longer Open a SC with a thief, because we either cant turn it, or we stand back to turn it, and it runs all over the place.
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i pt'ed with a thf last night. since i open the SC, i had to /war and do the SC up close (suck up and take the damage penalty). otherwise, i couldn't SC with the thf. pre-patch easily 800-1k on WS, post patch WS up close 300-400.
 
"the problem lies in the WS. RNG can no longer Open a SC with a thief, because we either cant turn it, or we stand back to turn it, and it runs all over the place."

SAM->RNG->THF

Example

Tachi Gekko -> Arching Arrow, Empirical Arrow, Heavy Shot, Detonator (Fusion) -> Shark Bite (Light)

3 way SC, 1.5X L3 Light dmg multiplier possible on Shark Bite

Just need to be creative. Problem for RNG becomes solution for SAM.
 
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