ixion has been killed

[Makelith]

The method of fighting Ixion is to TP on mobs around him, and then using SAWS on Ixion, correct? How much TP is built, 100% or 300%? That said, i'm assuming all of those WS numbers are going to be much higher than they otherwise would be.

Are there any screenshots of WS's that aren't being SA'd on to him? Or are those all screenshots of WS's that aren't being SA'd?

Just asking because as an endgame drk a 300% Ground Strike with SA does quite a bit more than its 100% Ground Strike w/out SA.

 

[Tyrath]

The method of fighting Ixion is to TP on mobs around him, and then using SAWS on Ixion, correct? How much TP is built, 100% or 300%? That said, i'm assuming all of those WS numbers are going to be much higher than they otherwise would be.

Are there any screenshots of WS's that aren't being SA'd on to him? Or are those all screenshots of WS's that aren't being SA'd?

Just asking because as an endgame drk a 300% Ground Strike with SA does quite a bit more than its 100% Ground Strike w/out SA.

Those numbers are still higher than normal 300 Sneak Attack WS. Ground Strike usually never does more than 2000.

 

[Itachiii]

Especially if those WS's are fully buffed (minuets, drk roll, angon, meat etc) those don't seem too terribly high if in fact they are 300tp SATA'd WS's. All the WS's shown are dependant on the amount of TP used to push out high numbers.

 

[jamal]

Yea, people don't SS e-peen pics without Rolls / Songs. Show some ws numbers from the front.

 

[hellstorm]

yep defiantly above normal.

 

[Makelith]

Those numbers are still higher than normal 300 Sneak Attack WS. Ground Strike usually never does more than 2000.

Jamal hit what i was trying to get at.

Yea, people don't SS e-peen pics without Rolls / Songs. Show some ws numbers from the front.

I'm also willing to bet that since Ground Strike was the highest, there was probably a souleater thrown on there as well.

Also, preferably show some from the front as well as not buffed.

 

[Neisan]

Isn't Ixion reported to take reduced damage from the front? I could be wrong but I believe I read that in the BG thread.

 

[Tyrath]

Jamal hit what i was trying to get at.




I'm also willing to bet that since Ground Strike was the highest, there was probably a souleater thrown on there as well.

Also, preferably show some from the front as well as not buffed.

Souleater only adds 100~ dmg for a single hit ws.

Yeah, they were probably buffed. But what i was getting at is that even full buffed other HNMs don't take that kinda damage. If you're comparing Ixion to ronfaure rabbits, then ya, sure you're right.

Isn't Ixion reported to take reduced damage from the front? I could be wrong but I believe I read that in the BG thread.

This is correct.


Maybe we're looking at it from different perspectives. I'm viewing Ixion as a HNM, which normally have higher defense and dont get owned so bad, even with sneak attack 300tp ws.

 

[jamal]

In response to Hellstorm's ratedown, to which these numbers wouldn't be able to be hit even with COR rolls:
BRD Rotation (2x's MIN+ Mad/Mar):

1 BRD no COR:

E-peen pics happen. People won't show their average ws's, just the high ones. I know I wouldn't epeen doing a 1k Steel Cyclone, I'd SS the one I busted out the big numbers on.

Note both of these are without a COR.

Oh, I don't have my SS of the 2083 Savage Blade on Behemoth either, that was my high until the 2-hand update. Big numbers happen, just gotta be able to SS it when they do.

Other 2k+ HNM's from a WAR:

Again, no one's going to post their crap ws's, just the goodies.

 

[hellstorm]

In response to Hellstorm's ratedown, to which these numbers wouldn't be able to be hit even with COR rolls:
BRD Rotation (2x's MIN+ Mad/Mar):

1 BRD no COR:

E-peen pics happen. People won't show their average ws's, just the high ones. I know I wouldn't epeen doing a 1k Steel Cyclone, I'd SS the one I busted out the big numbers on.

Note both of these are without a COR.

Oh, I don't have my SS of the 2083 Savage Blade on Behemoth either, that was my high until the 2-hand update. Big numbers happen, just gotta be able to SS it when they do.

They do happen, but 10-15 screenshots of a mob that has not even been out 3 weeks a little quiescence. Plus you first first one was on a dynamis mob that summon 2 pets and has a instant ko move, they tend to be weaker, and shen is weak to ws at start aswell.
Ixion is a lvl 85+ mob and he being hit with ws like hes 50. especally since those dragon kicks are from same person. He soft to ws is that hard to belive would not be first mob to have weakness do to the fact he was storng to something else.

 

[jamal]

/c edits

 

[hellstorm]

and how many of those are after the 2handed update? and how many where after they gimped it again? Give props on KV one pretty good for full buff 2hr ws. DL one are ok actually about what I hit in dynamis with 2hour active little less but about that. DL has very low evasion so it easy to get high numbers on him. Unfortunately never go to xarc as war so don't know exactly what I would hit on DL though, needed rdm/drk.

 

[jamal]

and how many of those are after the 2handed update? and how many where after they gimped it again?

They're the page before Ixion on KI. Most recent non-Ixion pics.

 

[Tyrath]

They're the page before Ixion on KI. Most recent non-Ixion pics.

Problem {Found it!}























jk >.> But I still hate KI

 

[jamal]

DL has very low evasion so it easy to get high numbers on him.

Evasion holds no bearing on a SA Weaponskill...

Steel Cyclone is a hit or miss, evasion holds no bearing in the damage.
Thanks for trying though.

Also, look up the weaponskill damage of the exact players caerloc quoted in his post on other mobs. Ixion, as Phraust and Courtney said, is just able to be damaged by weaponskills, not weak, not strong. His 'defensive weakness' is melee to the back. His 'defensive strength' is melee from the front.

Problem {Found it!}

jk >.> But I still hate KI

I googled WS damage and picked the first link. Shockingly enough, the first link I chose sufficed to show how damage was comparable on other HNMs.

 

[Tyrath]

I googled WS damage and picked the first link. Shockingly enough, the first link I chose sufficed to show how damage was comparable on other HNMs.

Xolotl, Shen, Dynamis Lord, Nyzul Fafnir are not HNMs, and also are not Ixion's level. KV is another weak defense HNM.

This is all 1 ixion fight. Its not pics of his high ws, its his consistent averages. Ixion, for a lvl 85 HNM has weak defense in the back, apparently not in the front.

Even you said that, so I'm not sure what we're arguing about.

 

[jamal]

Xolotl, Shen, Dynamis Lord, Nyzul Fafnir are not HNMs, and also are not Ixion's level. KV is another weak defense HNM.

This is all 1 ixion fight. Its not pics of his high ws, its his consistent averages. Ixion, for a lvl 85 HNM has weak defense in the back, apparently not in the front.

Even you said that, so I'm not sure what we're arguing about.

Look up Samanosuke. He's amazingly geared. This isn't your average MNK heading in there to DK. Look up testing by him in other facets using DK.

Ixion's Strength is defensive in the front, his weakness is in the back, comparatively. It makes more sense to weaponskill him in the front (unless you've downloaded the plugin to show ixion's hp...whole nother ballgame). If you destroy his horn, his hp bar is displayed and until he regrows it, he's unable to use certain weaponskills.

Like I said before, show me weaponskills from the front, that's where you should be attacking him. Using tools to show his HP so you know when to zerg him is cheating. Defeating him correctly by knocking his horn off by frontal attacks to see his hp bar is worth mentioning.

 

[Tyrath]

Like I said before, show me weaponskills from the front, that's where you should be attacking him. Using tools to show his HP so you know when to zerg him is cheating. Defeating him correctly by knocking his horn off by frontal attacks to see his hp bar is worth mentioning.

Why do you need to see his hp bar to kill him? SA zerg him down till he dies. Not like knowing his HP tells you anything besides how much longer you're gonna be fighting. Instead fighting him from the front will only make the fight that much longer.

 

[jamal]

Don't play dumb with me. You know as well as I do fight strategies change IMMENSELY when mobs are <25% and <10%...

 

[Tyrath]

Don't play dumb with me. You know as well as I do fight strategies change IMMENSELY when mobs are <25% and <10%...

Don't generalize. Ixion gets NOTHING special at low hp. He has a "rage" mode where he glows red but that happens randomly at any hp.

The 2 times I fought him, 100% -> 0% we changed nothing.