Depends on your definition of "gimp". If it's in an absolute sense (like a PLD wearing dunes armor at 75 and thinking that's good), then I think *anyone* who knows better - regardless of how good they are themselves - can quite validly call that person a gimp.
If it's more of a relative sense, then even if you're subpar yourself, if someone else is *more* subpar, you can still call them gimp. If it's about equal, well...
I wouldn't necessarily call a MNK with a Black Belt but no other notably outstanding gear a "gimp" - if their other gear is reasonable anyway. Perhaps it just so happened that of all the things to bump up from reasonable to really good, the Brown Belt -> Black Belt change was the first one. Depending on what if any endgame shell they're in and what that shell does, it's *very* possible that a BB could roll around before, say, a haidate or shura. Perhaps they're in a shell that camps kings all the time but rarely does sky: I know it was like that for me during my tenure in Kaizen.
Now if we're talking one super-shiny item and a bunch of stuff that's crappy to begin with (for example, since I know BRD better than MNK: a manteel-wearing BRD who only ever uses one instrument for *everything*) ... well then I just have to call them a dumbass.
So really, the answer is "it depends", and on quite a lot of factors too. You don't have to be perfectly pimped out yourself (and pimp out your items in some sort of order) in order to know what's good or bad in general. You do, however, have to be reasonable at *worst*, in any slots that aren't (yet) pimped. If you've got gimp gear of your own, then no, you shouldn't really be talking, but there's a difference between non-pimped and gimp.
A person's gear choices are a large part of their play style though. If you're on ninja, and you're built for evasion, then you're going to play entirely different than a ninja built for damage dealing. Someone with skill will both want and actually get good gear; it's incredibly, insanely rare to find someone with real skill with shitty gear, especially because decent gear is so cheap.
imho that is gimp itself. That's like saying HAY GUYS IM A MNK LVL 75 AND DONT HAVE NIN AT 37... Whoops. Granted you can get away w/ mnk/war... But you are an awful MP sponge on the Mages.
If you're gimp, you shouldn't be calling others gimp too; but that's not what's happening here. There's a massive difference between not gimp and completely decked out, but both groups have every right to call gimp people out.
I'll go ahead and repost this from the "Is the best gear a standard now?" thread.
Talent only gets you so far, and there are clear points where gear is a shitload more useful than talent; but those with any talent will be working for the best gear and will already have decent gear. That's what you're ignoring, talent doesn't replace gear, it lets you use that gear to the fullest.Bajaratt said:
I really find that hard to believe, unless the "non-gimps" weren't paying attention at all, or the the monsters you were fighting gave an advantage to the gimps. I'd love to see some parse results and equipments/foods for those parties.No you do not need the best gear in the game to call others gimp, however you need a basis yourself to call someone ungeared. I've seen a few people that sported gimp gear and have outparsed NON gimp geared players, simply because of playing style. Granted Ninjas need certain gear to obtain best stats. HOWEVER when a person doesn't even have proper subjobs lvled
No you do not need the best gear in the game to call others gimp, however you need a basis yourself to call someone ungeared. I've seen a few people that sported gimp gear and have outparsed NON gimp geared players, simply because of playing style. Granted Ninjas need certain gear to obtain best stats. HOWEVER when a person doesn't even have proper subjobs lvled
