Blowy said:
See, what will happen now that your friends have been caught is that all of the achievements of your shell are going to be suspect. All the respect for all the hard mobs that your shell has killed is gone, because noone can tell when they cheated. I doubt that will worry the people who were hacking, but if it doesn't worry at least a significant number of your members, then your shell isn't in great shape.
I know you say you don't have any say in OH's rules or the enforcement of them, but at least have the good sense to stop them from using hacks in your Dynamis shell.
In my oppinion that's ok with me. We've had ton of spectators when we killed wryms without anyone speedhacking. Also whenever we have spectarors such as JDA or kaizen or some other ls's, people give out warning for no one to mess around since they might call GM's for no reason. If you don't have any respect for us that's fine. My main problem in all of this is the people who make it out like we're murdering people or deserve to be run over.
Seriously unless you fit none of these situations:
a) Ever tried something illegal (pot, underage drinking, etc..)
b) Know someone who has done something illegal and may even do it regularly, but are still friends with them
c) You yourself do this regularly
Then you really should look at yourself before talking about the hacks. People just read the word "hack" and consider it the greatest evil. I'm sure any kaizen member can testify that speedhacking isn't even a real advantage to killing wryms and the like. Our ls uses it more out of utility than neccesity, and I can assure you, people who do use it do it out of their own accord, and most people don't even speedhack, it's literally like 2-3 people that still use it at all, alot stopped using after glade got perma banned, then more when kireek got caught, I'm sure even more with these threads.
This is how I see the situation: Someone started openly speedhacking, alot of people were like "Cool, let me try it out" half of those got bored or too scared of losing account and quit after trying for like a day, then more serious users stopped after glade, even more after kireek, and these threads has basiacally stopped 99% of it. This whole "fad" lasted a good month maybe a bit more, it was definatly after our first wrym kills.
Except maybe that jailer thing (I don't have sea yet, so I dunno situation) I've yet to see speedhacking "win" us a fight, at most it has saved us a ton of time, most people used it out of being impateint to get to places rather than fights. And again even if 100% of the people in ls speedhacked, it doesn't mean they can now kill tiamat or jorg. Especially since those mobs are straight tanked. Hell out of ordinary mobs I only see it helping with like kirin (which is a joke to kill), some CoP pop NM's, and er.. that's about it? Maybe vrtra but when we fought it we had like no tank deaths until things went bad, and unless everyone used it, it'd just make whm's job harder, and pop pts too by spreading mobs around.
Things worse than the speedhacking that was done include fishbots, claimbots (which I'm sure every ls, including our own, probably does, even without the knowledge of anyone but that single person botting), gilbuying, mpk, stealing mobs, etc... Just cause the word "hack" is in it doesn't automagically make it evil x100.
