Rude JP...

[Canitoch]

Im normally very lenient with Japanese players being disrespectful and rude... Such as having a merit party of them come and push our party out of the Mire as we were fighting, things like that. Sure, Ill ask em to leave, and if they dont, I just pack up my stuff and find a new camp. Im sure several people remember this incident (Zerayla and Xean from memory.)

Thats all and fine... But just where does a JP get off when I boot him from a party because his job is a PLD, and he doesnt want to change to /war, and he throws a fit...?

Perhaps I did react too quickly according to some peoples standards, but he had two chances, and thats enough for me. Change your job when I ask you if you want to keep your party, if you dont change it... You dont exp, simple as that.

If you look at the bottom of your first screenie, you say "Ugh now hes sending me tells saying he will change his sub to war"

wtf? Um yeah, first you said "We need provoke, can you change sub?" he says "oh i'm searching as a pld/nin" then you boot him because of what? He won't change? Then you get a tell saying he will change his sub? Uh yeah I'm really confused because you seem kinda like "Ugh this annoying person is now sending me tells that he will change his sub..which i wanted in the first place but no!"

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you were being an ass

 

[jyakotsu]

Amen cani

The whole point of my arguement was not the fact that pld/nin is better than pld/war

(Directing this to icewolf Meeze and Ruffy) My point was the fact that the japanese player was not the rude one... Ruffy was... BUT why does that not suprise me in the least.

 

[Ruffyreborn]

I asked him to change twice, which the second time gained no response.

And yeah, that WAS kind of annoying that he was telling me he would THEN change his SJ, because I has already found someone to replace him.

Its very simple, really. I requested him to be PLD/WAR, and he refused, so I had no use for him. Its as simple as that. Get over it

 

[jyakotsu]

I asked him to change twice, which the second time gained no response.

And yeah, that WAS kind of annoying that he was telling me he would THEN change his SJ, because I has already found someone to replace him.

Its very simple, really. I requested him to be PLD/WAR, and he refused, so I had no use for him. Its as simple as that. Get over it

I See you ask ONE time, then another and immediately booting him... So technically you asked him ONE TIME, the second giving him probably 2 seconds to respond... Which is not fair, which warranted his "FUCK YOU" response. And secondly you started this flame, why should i get over it LMAO. IF YOU DONT LIKE RESPONSES LIKE THIS AND YOU GET ALL QQ OVER IT. DONT FLAME... INSTEAD GO /WRISTS IN A DARK BATHROOM LIKE THE DRK YOU ARE!!!

*EDIT* go wear some black eyeliner while you are at it

 

[Ruffyreborn]

I See you ask ONE time, then another and immediately booting him... So technically you asked him ONE TIME, the second giving him probably 2 seconds to respond... Which is not fair, which warranted his "FUCK YOU" response. And secondly you started this flame, why should i get over it LMAO. IF YOU DONT LIKE RESPONSES LIKE THIS AND YOU GET ALL QQ OVER IT. DONT FLAME... INSTEAD GO /WRISTS IN A DARK BATHROOM LIKE THE DRK YOU ARE!!!

*EDIT* go wear some black eyeliner while you are at it

lol I gave him about a minute to respond to the second request
Clearly, two requests.

 

[meeze]

Amen cani

The whole point of my arguement was not the fact that pld/nin is better than pld/war

(Directing this to icewolf Meeze and Ruffy) My point was the fact that the japanese player was not the rude one... Ruffy was... BUT why does that not suprise me in the least.

He was asked to change, he said no, he has no more right to that slot. When I make a party I have something in mind when I see the /inv list for that level range. I ask for certain sub jobs before I invite from some jobs, I expect certain sub jobs from others.

PLD and NIN are two jobs I expect to /WAR UNLESS I ask for something different. There shouldn't be a PLD out there that should be shocked when asked to /WAR.

I don't care if they can out DD a fucking adaberidill war, If I want you to voke and you tell me no, I'm finding a PLD that will.

I shouldn't have to beg you to change, ask once, if you say no, you gets the boot.

 

[Makelith]

Unless you didn't screen shot the first time you asked him to change you only asked him once. There is that little thing called a language barrier and at no point did he refuse to change to /war. You aren't cool by being so rude.

Get over yourself Ruffy. If you don't like the responses in your FB thread then go away.

 

[jyakotsu]

lol I gave him about a minute to respond to the second request
Clearly, two requests.

Prove that you waited a minute >.> and even if it was a minute... you didnt wait for a response... Rude on your part not his.

If he was afk for like 5 minutes thats different.. I Recall you complained one time about how someone asked you to pt, you responding 2 minutes later to find out the spot had been filled? Last i checked you flamed about that... Funny how you are being a hypocrite here.

ON One side you say one should be at the computer 24/7 in order to respond all the time. On the other you say that one should wait for a response from someone.... LAME if you ask me... fucking hypocrites

 

[jyakotsu]

He was asked to change, he said no, he has no more right to that slot. When I make a party I have something in mind when I see the /inv list for that level range. I ask for certain sub jobs before I invite from some jobs, I expect certain sub jobs from others.

PLD and NIN are two jobs I expect to /WAR UNLESS I ask for something different. There shouldn't be a PLD out there that should be shocked when asked to /WAR.

I don't care if they can out DD a fucking adaberidill war, If I want you to voke and you tell me no, I'm finding a PLD that will.

I shouldn't have to beg you to change, ask once, if you say no, you gets the boot.

Meeze show me in the JPN plds response where he said "No"

All he said was "i was hoping to seek on pld/nin."

He never once said NO i wont change to war, and in all honesty he said in /tell I had no problem changing to /war

*Ninja edit* Ruffy obviously didnt ask the PLD what subjobs he had available... Because He was invited before asking to change to /war

 

[Ruffyreborn]

Prove that you waited a minute >.> and even if it was a minute... you didnt wait for a response... Rude on your part not his.

If he was afk for like 5 minutes thats different.. I Recall you complained one time about how someone asked you to pt, you responding 2 minutes later to find out the spot had been filled? Last i checked you flamed about that... Funny how you are being a hypocrite here.

ON One side you say one should be at the computer 24/7 in order to respond all the time. On the other you say that one should wait for a response from someone.... LAME if you ask me... fucking hypocrites

How exactly is someone going to prove the length of time they waited?? You cant, lol. But youre taking YOUR OWN conclusion, and you werent even present in the pt. Who tf do you think you are?

If youre in a pt, you normally say "brb" or "afk" if youre going to be AWAY. Not doing so is your own fault if you are booted. GG to the idiots that do so. Get out of your wet panties

 

[meeze]

Meeze show me in the JPN plds response where he said "No"

All he said was "i was hoping to seek on pld/nin."

He never once said NO i wont change to war, and in all honesty he said in /tell I had no problem changing to /war

The JP makes it apparent he wants to party as /NIN. He didn't change his tune till after he was booted. All he had to say was "OK" and he never would have gotten the boot.

Especially with the language barrier. He knows he can't explain himself.

 

[jyakotsu]

How exactly is someone going to prove the length of time they waited?? You cant, lol. But youre taking YOUR OWN conclusion, and you werent even present in the pt. Who tf do you think you are?

If youre in a pt, you normally say "brb" or "afk" if youre going to be AWAY. Not doing so is your own fault if you are booted. GG to the idiots that do so. Get out of your wet panties

LMAO first off, if you flame and you present your evidence.. if its not clear enough... BE ready to get ripped into, which obviously you have on several occasions(IN Multiple threads)

Secondly you never answered my question of why you are acting like a hypocrite. Again ill repeat myself for your obvious lack of intellegence. Why do you flame one way. EX: Getting invited to pts, responding 2 minutes later and getting replaced. VS. immediately booting someone after QQing because you asked one time, and he brought a valid point up.

I am going to assume you invited him PLD/NIN correct? I am going to assume you DID not ask him to change his subjob Prior to inviting him right? You gave him one chance to respond to your request, in which he NEVER said "no"

And to answer your question, who the fuck do i think i am? Obviously someone who has more tact and respect to JPN members than your uncultured ass. there is a language barrier between JPN and NA if you were not aware. It takes a few seconds to figure out what can be {TAB KEY}ed as im sure you MUST be aware...

 

[jyakotsu]

The JP makes it apparent he wants to party as /NIN. He didn't change his tune till after he was booted. All he had to say was "OK" and he never would have gotten the boot.

Especially with the language barrier. He knows he can't explain himself.

Yes i agree, however he never clearly said "no" And ruffy did invite him as a PLD/NIN

If there is such a language barrier Ruffy should have asked him prior to inviting if he would go /war. I do that when i invite people... its common sense. Especially with the amount of new wave people that come in, you know... the ones that WAR/MNK w/ a SH at 75. Or the ones that think that its ok to wear a Byrnie over a Hauby as a DD... I am sure you know exactly what i am refering to meeze

 

[Canitoch]

There is still no proof of him saying "No I will not change my sub from NIN to WAR", nor is there proof of you asking more than once. I'm going by the evidence you gave us, and since there's nothing prooving (other than what you say..which we all know how much that prooves anything) that you asked more tha once to change subs.

English does not translate something else to English, "Ya, but I'm seeking as "PLD/NIN" does not translate to "No I will not change my sub"

And why didn't you ask him to change sub before inviting him?

 

[Ruffyreborn]

LMAO first off, if you flame and you present your evidence.. if its not clear enough... BE ready to get ripped into, which obviously you have on several occasions(IN Multiple threads)

Secondly you never answered my question of why you are acting like a hypocrite. Again ill repeat myself for your obvious lack of intellegence. Why do you flame one way. EX: Getting invited to pts, responding 2 minutes later and getting replaced. VS. immediately booting someone after QQing because you asked one time, and he brought a valid point up.

I am going to assume you invited him PLD/NIN correct? I am going to assume you DID not ask him to change his subjob Prior to inviting him right? You gave him one chance to respond to your request, in which he NEVER said "no"

And to answer your question, who the fuck do i think i am? Obviously someone who has more tact and respect to JPN members than your uncultured ass. there is a language barrier between JPN and NA if you were not aware. It takes a few seconds to figure out what can be {TAB KEY}ed as im sure you MUST be aware...

lol, no no no... You are just a stuck-up little e-brat.

 

[meeze]

*Ninja edit* Ruffy obviously didnt ask the PLD what subjobs he had available... Because He was invited before asking to change to /war

Show me a 75 PLD who doesn't have war sub to use. He had it, everyone knows he had it, just being PLD implies you have that sub. You're making excuses for him.

First it started with "oh, pld/nin is da 1337 dd!!!!" now he didn't have the sub? Let's be real, PLDs don't get invited to do anythiing but voke and tank, anything else you should save it for parties with friends or make sure you seacom tells the story.

 

[jyakotsu]

lol, no no no... You are just a stuck-up little e-brat.

LMAO FYI You still didnt answer my question. Wow someone stick a fork in Ruffy he is fucking done.

 

[jyakotsu]

Show me a 75 PLD who doesn't have war sub to use. He had it, everyone knows he had it, just being PLD implies you have that sub. You're making excuses for him.

First it started with "oh, pld/nin is da 1337 dd!!!!" now he didn't have the sub? Let's be real, PLDs don't get invited to do anythiing but voke and tank, anything else you should save it for parties with friends or make sure you seacom tells the story.

im not making excuses, i agree 100% with the subjob part. I never said PLD/NIN was the best DD. I said they honestly make better DD w/ proper setup than a PLD/WAR w/ S/S setup.

My thoughts on this however is the following. Ruffy should have asked the person to change his subjob prior to inviting. If a person seeks on SAM/WAR for example, would you not assume he is coming sam/war unless told otherwise?

 

[Ruffyreborn]

There is still no proof of him saying "No I will not change my sub from NIN to WAR", nor is there proof of you asking more than once. I'm going by the evidence you gave us, and since there's nothing prooving (other than what you say..which we all know how much that prooves anything) that you asked more tha once to change subs.

English does not translate something else to English, "Ya, but I'm seeking as "PLD/NIN" does not translate to "No I will not change my sub"

And why didn't you ask him to change sub before inviting him?

First time: Diran /WAR Do you have it?

Response: ya but i Looking for party. p/nin

(as we can ALL see, he is CLEARLY not blocked by the language barrier)

That was his refusal to change SJ. He wanted to party as /nin. Thats okay. We didnt start partying yet, so he lost little to no time at all.

Second time: I'm sorry. Diran Provoke Job Yes, please. T-T

This gained no response, either because he wanted to stay /nin, or he was afk. If it was the latter, I should have been notified.


I did not ask him to change SJ before hand because I normally expect people to be ready to party as whatever the party leader asks of them. Almost no one here will only party as one certain SJ, and not have others leveled for the occasion if it arises. I lfp on BLU and when I do, I keep all SJ's open for whatever the party needs. If this JP wanted a cannon pt, he should be happy he didnt participate, because mine clearly wasnt a burn pt. If he wanted to stay, well, party leaders requests need to be followed if you want to stay in the party, especially when its a completely normal request.

 

[meeze]

im not making excuses, i agree 100% with the subjob part. I never said PLD/NIN was the best DD. I said they honestly make better DD w/ proper setup than a PLD/WAR w/ S/S setup.

My thoughts on this however is the following. Ruffy should have asked the person to change his subjob prior to inviting. If a person seeks on SAM/WAR for example, would you not assume he is coming sam/war unless told otherwise?

Apples and oranges.

Like I said, there are a certain number of jobs that have an expected sub, one of those is PLD.

I seek as NIN/THF a lot, I seek as NIN/BLM a lot, WHM/THF, DRK/BLM, DRK/THF cause I'm doing things, fleeing, warping etc. But, I am expected to be NIN/WAR amirite?

It's ridiculous to even use that as an excuse for PLD, they are expected to be /WAR 99.999999999% of the time in XP.