Some people are just too lazy ><

[Gatttsu]

For my first ever post on the flameboard, I present a tiny rant...

Disclaimer:Before I start, I am in no way complaining about the ads, or the content of anything here on QCDN, if I had a problem with QCDN, I wouldn't come here. It doesn't get any simpler really, if you don't like the content of a site or the ads on it, don't go there anymore, go somewhere else.

The following screenie is what brought this on really, kind of a hint towards how lazy people really can be when doing anything, even playing video games.

(note: I blacked out the address just in case someone wanted it, they can find it themselves, I won't be helping someone find this "tool")

A mob radar?? Seriously, how does someone not know what kind of mobs pop in an area? I'm sure the main purpose of this little trinket is to track down NMs without widescan, it probably even has plugin capabilities to drop an overlay on your map, and give you some kind of radar display on your screen, I don't know and don't care to find out really.

I can understand someone not knowing what kinds of mobs, or what specific mobs pop in a certain area if they're not familiar with that zone and whatnot, that's why some sites have a beastiary(sp?), usually listing the mobs by zone(s) and level ranges, and occasionally what their drops are too.

Back on track...

I can't stand the fact that some lazy (rude term describing said types of people withheld) would actually buy this, there may be free ones out there too, I haven't a clue. Anyway, it just drives me nuts the way people will always look for the easy way out when doing just about anything, I could go into a detailed list of such things, but I'll sit here for hours, and probably get timed out on my QCDN login before I'm finished typing it all out.

These people just make me sick, I may use the windower, but I broke down and got it for one reason, and one reason only: I got sick and tired of logging out to look up info, write it down, log back in, and then find out it wasn't entirely accurate to being with, and then log out again to find something more accurate to repeat the process again just for some info that I would have had prepared if I knew I was going to need it. Yes, that is somewhat lazy of me to do, and I wouldn't even be doing it if SE would have just allowed us to alt+tab out in the first place without the whole "full screen lost" bs.

Again, I wandered off topic ><. These little "tools" such as the old "Mrargus" and the infamous bots, and now this "mob radar" are total garbage in my book, they are fair in no way whatsoever and anyone who would think they need such things should just walk into the nearest clinic or whatnot and kindly surrender their ability to have children so as not to bring about more "Darwin Awards" so to speak. I'm aware that that comes off a bit harsh, and it's a bit of an exaggeration on what I really think, but I'm just simplifying my point.

Seriously, if you need to know what kind of mobs are in an area, try looking up the beastiary on Alla, or the new addtion to the FFXI Atlas that they're working on currently, I'm sure it'll be really useful once they're done implementing it along with the extremely useful maps that they provide with NM/Elemental/Chest/Coffer pops and such on them.

I'm gonna just cut my ranting here, I need my sleep for the day ahead.

I may come back to this and get into a little more detail or clarify a few points that I've probably left a little fuzzy in my currently tired state.

Thank you all for your time.

 

[Trippyhippy]

Hax are for cheaters.

I wish the would make a test server where you could set your level and gear to whatevr you want with the push of a couple of buttons. That would keep the people that wanted to cheat away from the people who actually prefer a challenge.

I'm with you on this 100%

 

[Kire]

or if SE gets every 1s IP and when u log on do a scan of PC for 3rd party software would be easy enough lol but might invade some privicy laws but it should be in that thing when u log onto ffxi and u got to delcine or add

 

[Twille]

Hax are for cheaters.

agreed

I may use the windower

so its ok for YOU to justify using a 3rd party program because "blah blah blah" but its NOT ok for someone else to make that same justification?

 

[Davio]

Radar dosnt look so bad, there was a thread on KI, where a guy uses it to find NPCs in towns. But, i can see where some people would take advantage of it. Its also a map that pops up on your screen. If anyone played Star Wars Galaxies they know what im talking about.

 

[Rhyan]

WHy would i wanna sit in jeuno staring at PC screen bored shitlesswhile seeking for 5 hours on thf when i can be doing other more productive stuff becuase because i can minimize it. I dont think i would be playing anymore if not for windower.

 

[Alyada]

Radar dosnt look so bad, there was a thread on KI, where a guy uses it to find NPCs in towns. But, i can see where some people would take advantage of it. Its also a map that pops up on your screen. If anyone played Star Wars Galaxies they know what im talking about.

Why doesn't he just sub RNG? Honestly, the whole windower debate is pretty crazy. I mean, yes, it is hax. Do I use it? Yes, of course I do. I use it to change the drawdistance because my computer is so high end, I feel like FFXI isn't taking full advantage of my systems capabilities. Also, it's nice to talk to people on AIM or yahoo while I'm LFP or just sitting around talking to my LS.

 

[Cleofis]

WHy would i wanna sit in jeuno staring at PC screen bored shitlesswhile seeking for 5 hours on thf when i can be doing other more productive stuff becuase because i can minimize it. I dont think i would be playing anymore if not for windower.

Ditto. I do farm and stuff whilst LFP. However sometimes I can't be bothered. I did quit before I knew about windower, it has kept me playing the game, therefore giving SE money. I'm sure they aren't too bothered.

 

[Oropher]

... I use it to change the drawdistance because my computer is so high end, I feel like FFXI isn't taking full advantage of my systems capabilities.....

do you mean the clipping pane? how do you do that with windower?

 

[Marajade]

so its ok for YOU to justify using a 3rd party program because "blah blah blah" but its NOT ok for someone else to make that same justification?

Different programs, different justification. He wasnt bashing it because its third party, but because of what it lets a person do. Windower doesnt let you cheet, it just lets me post here (get distracted in exp) and Alter my Music playlist on the fly, instead of having to log out when i get tired of the current selections.

 

[Kyp]

Different programs, different justification. He wasnt bashing it because its third party, but because of what it lets a person do. Windower doesnt let you cheet, it just lets me post here (get distracted in exp) and Alter my Music playlist on the fly, instead of having to log out when i get tired of the current selections.

More accurately, it provides something the developers should have provided in the first place for the PC version, their justification for not allowing windowed mode was to prevent hacks.. unfortunately this does very little to stop it or even to impede it. I use to run macroing utilities on UO.. and it's fairly easy to do on this game if you want to.. it would take care of mind numbing things like skillcapping magic types.. especially healing and enhancing.

I wouldn't support anything that allows an unfair advantage over another player.. and I have yet to see anything on the windower site that gives an unfair advantage exceeding being able to see your experience total and experience per hour without hitting the mainmenu and the submenus :16suspect1:

 

[The Druw]

I agree. The radar is ridiculous. Specially since no one is gonna download it and just use it for NPC's. It makes things too easy not to use other times.

And on the subject of windower.

People who hate it A) Haven't used it B) Have a shitty PC that can't handle it or C) Is a PS2bie

 

[Excim]

C) Is a PS2bie

I'm a PS2bie, there is no chance I'm going to go buy FFXI again just to put it on my computer, when I'd rather play FFXI on my big screen anyways.

But for the casual gamer, I really haven't felt the burn of cheaters all that much. I can claim NM's just fine, admittedly when I don't claim them it's because of either the patch of I wasn't paying attention, but meh. Cheating is lazy, but aside from bitching... we got nothing. When the game boils down to me being effective at nothing because I am unable to cheat, I'll quit. Otherwise... I feel pretty good about accomplishing the things I have without hax.

 

[Veovis]

When the game boils down to me being effective at nothing because I am unable to cheat, I'll quit. Otherwise... I feel pretty good about accomplishing the things I have without hax.

Word.

As a fellow PS2bie, I tip my hat to you, sir. Sure, we have to put up with a lower-quality picture. But we cant ever be accused of cheating, eh!?

 

[Excim]

I know some people that cheat really hard core. I also know quite a few people who don't cheat at all, and are in the same place in the game as said cheater. Whats the difference between the two of them? Not much at all. They both manage to get things done in the same amount of time... and I'd have to say the "cheater" spends more time doing things in the game than others... I'd hardly call him lazy.

I dunno, I guess it's hard to say how I feel about cheating... if only one person cheated, it's be one thing... but many many people do instead. I guiess it's more like... "you cheat? Oh... whatever..." What the hell difference is it going to make if I'm against it or not, eh?

 

[Kyp]

I know some people that cheat really hard core. I also know quite a few people who don't cheat at all, and are in the same place in the game as said cheater. Whats the difference between the two of them? Not much at all. They both manage to get things done in the same amount of time... and I'd have to say the "cheater" spends more time doing things in the game than others... I'd hardly call him lazy.

I dunno, I guess it's hard to say how I feel about cheating... if only one person cheated, it's be one thing... but many many people do instead. I guiess it's more like... "you cheat? Oh... whatever..." What the hell difference is it going to make if I'm against it or not, eh?

The difference in my mind is something needed for a quest.. a good example is for the monk brown belt quest.. the items you have to camp some have a long spawn time. If you waited the full timer because you didn't have a ToD and someone teleports to the mob in front of you after you waited this long? Then it starts to annoy you.

 

[vang]

I agree. The radar is ridiculous. Specially since no one is gonna download it and just use it for NPC's. It makes things too easy not to use other times.

And on the subject of windower.

People who hate it A) Haven't used it B) Have a shitty PC that can't handle it or C) Is a PS2bie

I'm a "PS2bie" and have more experience/skill and more fortunes/net worth than 95% of the server.

So what's that make you?

A dragoon, that's right.



Windower is cheating, no matter what anyone says. End of discussion.

 

[Deuce]

A dragoon, that's right.

hahahahaha ya drg suck vang :spiteful:

 

[Excim]

People who hate it A) Haven't used it B) Have a shitty PC that can't handle it or C) Is a PS2bie

Oh, and to address that... as a Ps2bie... I really could care less about people using windower.


And as for people teleporting to get mobs, yeah it's annoying. But other than bitch, what could we possibly do about it? Right...

 

[Mistaya]

In my mind there are two kinds of cheating, harmless and harmful. The windower is cheating in that it allows you to do something the system would not otherwise allow but it is not hurtful to others. I replaced my moogle model! OH MY GOD BAN ME FOR CHEATING.

Harmful cheating would be using a runspeed hack, a teleport hack. The radar hack. (I've seen pictures of this and no I dont use it. It isnt just like widescan its a minimap in your screen and VERY unfair to fellow campers.) I would even put draw distance extension as a borderline harmful ALTHOUGH the x-box 360 version will have an extended draw distance so it will become legal soon.

In my mind, using the windower is exactly like playing PS2 with your laptop next to you. Or using a second computer while you play. Is owning a laptop and looking up BCNM information while your character is on the airship cheating? No? Then shut up. PS2 players already have "windower" because they obviously have an internet connection to play and 99.9% have a computer that uses it. Don't preach to me.