The Dynamis Show

I have been reading this thread and I am just really surprised about what you are saying Lavi.

It is a little hard for me to believe that it is the same person who so selflessly did not lot on the briault because you saw how I kept losing most pieces to you and other whms in the ls. It just blew my mind that someone could be so generous and fair in this game. (No Souj, we did not had a deal, I was pretty much speechless at the time as well.)

Yet, in the light of this thread I really wish you would have lotted on it. I am sure you could have beaten my usually crappy lot, and would have your last piece and all this and the bitter taste in my mouth could have been averted.
I understand why you are upset, but the break just happened, there is nothing anyone could do about that.

TDS died because of the leaders who actually had the last say so on decisions regarding the LS were not able to log in game, and the LS captains were constantly bombarded with complaints from members about things they haven't had the ability or the responsibility to change. Then add to this the sensitive issue of Fury members leaving TDS for their own newly started LS Dyanmis.
This tension eventually caused Audino to leave the ls and we saw where TDS ended up without his assistance. I hope I am not offending Myi here, as she did try so hard to keep things together all by herself.

When TDS finally broke and Encore rolled about it was like a breeze of fresh air. The small group who came over from TDS were once again excited about dynamis. Not because of the possibility of lotting on any af for a 65+ job.
But to be finally be able to play together in a shell that has order, and has responsible leadership.

I admit, the lotting rules are strange at first, but it is based on the LS members cooperation and trust in each other. I believe the intent is to keep the LS relatively small, close knit, and with a static number, so everyone has the chance to complete their old and start a new af set freely.
People are not as greedy as you might first image, we had members already passing on af so others can complete their own. I will do the same for others, and I am trusting they will do the same for me as the time comes. But, even if they are not, in the end I will still have fun with my old (and new) friends.

Edit: spelling... at least I am a foreigner :P
 
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i remember a good time ago.. back in affinity.... the shell rule...

SELL ALL SHINING CLOTH...

linkshell kills kirin....

shining cloth drops..... leaders... "we will sell and distribute"...

not long later... "congrat lavi on a new nobles tunic"..

umm....wtf? at this point- only payge, who attended since day 1 (even in the previous shell, thousand swords).. had one.... other WHMs who had more attendance, and been there longer, were overlooked....

you got nobles tunic before most the WHM with less work....

so why don't you just send us all the 400k you owe us from the shining cloth that was owed to us, that you got instead?

god, tired of the whining from hypocritical people..
 
Man I still don't have my swift belt. you greedy sons of bitches, you flyingfishies you..you
 
Myihta said:
But hey... lets not thread hijack.
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Before we honor that proclamation, it seems this thread has drawn out a lot of people that I haven't seen in awhile, so I just wanted to throw out a /wave myself....
 
Mishaela said:
But I goto Dynamis as BST now...
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To hijack some more...

How does that work for you? Are you /nin? Do you use jugs?
 
Honestly, you can't expect Encore to give you anything Lavi. From what I can see, everyone had their plate cleaned. It was the choice people made. You didn't make the choice, so I don't see why you're so upset. Linkshells come and go, friends shouldn't. Just because you're pissed that you have to start over doesn't mean anyone else isn't. It's not an attack at you. Frankly, this flame is unfounded and unnecessary.
 
neophytal said:
i remember a good time ago.. back in affinity.... the shell rule...

SELL ALL SHINING CLOTH...

linkshell kills kirin....

shining cloth drops..... leaders... "we will sell and distribute"...

not long later... "congrat lavi on a new nobles tunic"..

umm....wtf? at this point- only payge, who attended since day 1 (even in the previous shell, thousand swords).. had one.... other WHMs who had more attendance, and been there longer, were overlooked....

you got nobles tunic before most the WHM with less work....

so why don't you just send us all the 400k you owe us from the shining cloth that was owed to us, that you got instead?

god, tired of the whining from hypocritical people..
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Actually, no. Since Affinity started I had been to nearly every LS event. And the only people who had similar status were Cherubael who was getting a tunic at the same time I was or SUmer. However, in Sumer's case, she had left the shell and you know as well as I did how much Payge hated Sumer. That wasn't my doing, that was because of their mutual hatred and Payge's standing. And considering I had been with the shell for around 5-6 months by that time, I am pretty sure I deserved since it was literally the only item I had obtained at that point besides an abj I said I didn't want.
 
Legomyeggo said:
Oh fuck, Lavi. You seriously need someone to fuck your brains out. Get a booty call, find some lonely nerd at the comic book shop, I don't know what, but do something. Your shit is boring.
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I can help you out with this Lavi.
 
alanon said:
To hijack some more...

How does that work for you? Are you /nin? Do you use jugs?
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It's quite fun ^^ I use Carrie when I can't get ahold of Funguar jugs (they're unfortunately a bit uncommon), she hits most of the mobs for 70s-90s. I hit all the mobs 'cept THF about 90% with +32acc(*edit* forgot to include Maneater's +acc, sorry) overall and 4 axe merits, so I can pop att food and just goto town on stuff.

I personally sub NIN because all the AOEspam monsters do can be annoying, but I also got a Juggernaut recently and I found being able to offhand that seems to be about as beneficial as subbing WAR for berserk, plus I can still double-attack somewhat often thanks to Brutal...not tested WAR enough in Dyn to say which is truely better, though, nor do I have a Tatami Shield on me to be able to do a really fair comparison =/
 
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Alyada said:
Honestly, you can't expect Encore to give you anything Lavi. From what I can see, everyone had their plate cleaned. It was the choice people made. You didn't make the choice, so I don't see why you're so upset. Linkshells come and go, friends shouldn't. Just because you're pissed that you have to start over doesn't mean anyone else isn't. It's not an attack at you. Frankly, this flame is unfounded and unnecessary.
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I know that, but isn't (referring to bolded) saying that stating the obvious about any flameboard post? I know I won't get anything from this nor do I care, I am done with dynamis now. I didn't plan to drum up sympathy to get what I wanted or try to get someone to pass for me when I know very well it won't happen. I guess it's more for closure and a screw you to those I am unhappy with.
 
In all honesty Lavi, wouldn't it be better to stay with them and work up your attendance again? What if Briault drops next beaucedine you guys do and you'd have won it?

Well, you'll never know I suppose if you're leaving them =/
 
Lavi said:
I know that, but isn't (referring to bolded) saying that stating the obvious about any flameboard post? I know I won't get anything from this nor do I care, I am done with dynamis now. I didn't plan to drum up sympathy to get what I wanted or try to get someone to pass for me when I know very well it won't happen. I guess it's more for closure and a screw you to those I am unhappy with.
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I wouldn't say that every flame is worthless. I mean, a vast majority of them are and I'll agree with you there. I see this flame as a general 'warning' flame, but I don't see why we should be warned. The management of one LS left, so the remaining members decided to wipe the slate clean and start fresh. Though, you made this flame because you're pissed at those members who decided to do something? I applaud them for their hard work and determination not to let a group of people 'fail.'

From what I can gather, the general consensus was that you were a good member and people may have passed their lotting rights to you. That's not the best, and not what you wanted, but it's what you can get with that current shell. I would rather go someplace I'm known for being a good player and a respectable member of a shell rather than to flip them the bird.

Hard work goes unrewarded. The sooner you accept this, the better you will be.
 
Reading over, the ones that should be blamed/flamed should be SE because of their "genius design" of making things in this game so difficult to obtain. I've heard of other players participating in things such as sky, have a long wait before they ever saw the items they wanted, and I know that dynamis is just another one of those events that unfortunately some people wait months, and sometimes longer before they ever see the item they're after and even then they may have others lotting against them which only prolongs the wait.

I can understand the frustration, because if you put in a lot of time to a game you would expect to get something out of it in the end. And finding players that are committed to a 3hr event like Dynamis that actually do their job during the event, and do their best to have perfect attendance isn't always common at least from my experience, so its even more unfortunate that the odds of you receiving the item you're after have become less likely.

My opinion is that no matter what shell you go to in this game, there are always going to be people that are only looking out for themselves and trying to progress their character with no interest in helping others. But the good thing is that there will still be people who are considerate about others, who would pass on AF as an example and still be around to help with dynamis even if they have the items they need. Those are the people that come for the purpose to enjoy the event, accomplishing something with a team of other skilled players and having a good time doing so. The drops, well those are nice rewards and in some cases pay for the actual event because I know dynamis isn't cheap, but if you participate because you're there to be amongst friends and have a fun time then you will not have wasted your time if say you didn't get any drops.

Hopefully if you chose to continue you'll get the item you're after. But hopefully you'll also be able to enjoy actually participating in the event and if you're with friends, that should make it even more worthwhile then getting gear because after all, if you play your job well then gear is nothing compared to skill.

Sorry to hear that changes were made that will make your odds at getting the item you want less likely, but if you give up right now, then you won't ever be able to get the item so keep just keep at it and hopefully the dedication you've given will pay out.
 
Zerayla said:
My opinion is that no matter what shell you go to in this game, there are always going to be people that are only looking out for themselves and trying to progress their character with no interest in helping others.
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You need to have a set of rules in place that makes it in peoples best interest to come. Or they won't. While a shell treats AF2 as the endall, whenever people get 5/5 they will leave, it's pretty simple...

For people that want AF, it has to be in their best interest to come, even when they're not first in line. They have to be able to see that they're working toward the gear, that they're getting closer.
For people that have their AF, there has to be another reason for them to come.

I've been in three Dynamis Shells for at least a year each. Two LSs haven't considered those two points important, and have had very large turnovers of members. The third LS has rules that cover both of the above points, has had basically the same core group for a year, and has seen more AF drop than I would have believed possible. And if you're willing to do the work, within a few months you can have just about any piece of AF2 in the game.
 
Does it suck when a shell breaks? Of course.
Does it suck when you lose your lotting priority because a shell breaks? Of course.
Did the shell break just to fuck you? Of course not.

As has been pointed out before, at some point, no matter what happened with TDS and changing the system or just ending the shell and starting over, SOMEONE WAS GOING TO GET SCREWED.

So far it seems you're just pissed it was you.

You lost priority on the Briault. I lost priority on the effin' Shadow Mantle (not to mention the Valor Cape in the unlikely event that one would have dropped... ever.), Damita lost priority on the Pimp Hat of Doom, and other people lost priority on pieces at least as rare. Did you get screwed the worst as you claimed earlier? Not by a fucking long shot.

I like how you're trying to make it seem like you spent 11 months in Dynamis and got nothing at all out of it. You got more AF than rather a lot of other people, just apparently lacking that 5/5 makes it all worthless. Again, the hypocrisy of complaining that people who want to get gear screwed you out of the gear you wanted to get... seems kinda off.
 
Courtney said:
You need to have a set of rules in place that makes it in peoples best interest to come. Or they won't. While a shell treats AF2 as the endall, whenever people get 5/5 they will leave, it's pretty simple...

For people that want AF, it has to be in their best interest to come, even when they're not first in line. They have to be able to see that they're working toward the gear, that they're getting closer.
For people that have their AF, there has to be another reason for them to come.

I've been in three Dynamis Shells for at least a year each. Two LSs haven't considered those two points important, and have had very large turnovers of members. The third LS has rules that cover both of the above points, has had basically the same core group for a year, and has seen more AF drop than I would have believed possible. And if you're willing to do the work, within a few months you can have just about any piece of AF2 in the game.
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I don't disagree with any of that, a LS that has rules in place to benefit everyone and reward committed members will succeed and members will be rewarded provided that they have some THFs and luck plays a factor in the drops too.

But there are people that are also doing dynamis just because of the excitment of having accomplished taking down a zone full of mobs. Those people don't join because they want the AF, and so really their reward is success and lotting rules don't apply to their needs or requirements for joining a LS. There aren't many that join a dynamis LS because that is their #1 priority, but I know a few players that only log into the game to play dynamis and its not because of the AF2.
 
Lavi said:
I guess it's more for closure and a screw you to those I am unhappy with.
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Who exactly is that anyways? I'm not a leader of TDS nor Encore, but I still take pride in any shell I've been with for this long. You were fingering me, Raes, Reya, Damita, Boon, Ish, and all the other OGs just as much as the leads of either LS with your OP.

Zerayla said:
I know a few players that only log into the game to play dynamis and its not because of the AF2.
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You mean like Pere... oh wait.
 
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