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wolfskymoon said:Decidence: "I'd rather have +1 str no matter what"
Switch to elvaan? :lol: you get way more than 1 str then.
Caerloc said:Peregrines list on reasons not to buy Foragers
Yup.You are a genious Peregrine.
Truly you are.
That's not a response to what he said. He said nothing of selling it, his point was that you're claiming that if someone gets this back piece, that they're gimping on some other gear. Whether or not they have uber gear in level capped areas isn't the point, and even if it was, someone with that much money would be able to buy lower level gear easier than someone without it.Peregrine said:1.
Why buy a forager's when you can sell to morons? Heck you don't even have to use the AH. Just post on the AH forum and these idiots will take it off your hands.
vang said:meeze said:pergrine, what the fuck do you even craft for? to have normal gear? you aren't planning on going to 100 are you? if you do you are a moron wasting all that gil to hit 100 when you can just stay at 80 and make gil on silk cloths so you can sport NQ gear all around.
what the fuck else are going to do with your gil at lvl 75. the only thing left to do is to round out your gear. pick up the luxuries (or basics like SH in your case) for your job.
once you hit 75 with a job, there isn't much to do but aquire gear, whether it be from sky, dynamis or purchased.
Peregrine where ya hiding?
Peregrine said:1.
Why buy a forager's when you can sell to morons? Heck you don't even have to use the AH. Just post on the AH forum and these idiots will take it off your hands.
2.
You are an idiot regardless. No qualifiers.
3.
+83=+84 when you're talking about signifificant difference, which is what mommy and daddy talk about when you go to bed.
4.
Again, significance child. Something you have no background in.
5.
It doesn't all add up. Parser won't show a difference.
6.
I don't want one. I hit bolts in xp parties with my C skill. I could afford it. I'm not a teen with mommy's credit card though.
Peregrine said:I don't want one. I hit bolts in xp parties with my C skill. I could afford it. I'm not a teen with mommy's credit card though.
why would you want them to sell something when you just know they'll go spend it on magic beans or whatever else you think people who buy top-of-the-line gear waste their gil on?
You all can beg equal treatment all you want, but some of you are more worth of my time than others, and some of your comments aren't. Not my fault. Try harder if you want a serious reply and not a dismissal. Most of you are dismissed. Not worthy of my time, and this is my thread."I don't have an answer to this number, so I'll just call you stupid and hope I can ignore the point's validity."
When their base is 70, Einstein. The difference between +13 strength and +15 strength isn't 2/13. It's 2/83 when your base is 70. I wouldn't expect forum lackeys to comprehend that. They think they're significant. lolWhen do people get +83 in any stat?
So why merit point? Ever? You spend all that time for +1 attribute ('insignificant'), +2 combat/magic proficiency (258 = 256, 'insignificant'), Enmity/crit+ (1 point/% each, 'insignificant'), or recast timer reductions (-10 seconds on a 5 minute timer, 'insignificant'.)
It won't, or it doesn't? Because if it 'won't,' that means you haven't parsed anything, have no proof, and are getting dangerously close to just throwing out assumptions as proof to support your argument. Also look at the gear list above. If I were to get full STR gear it would add up to about 20 more STR than I currently use. Would that be enough of a difference for you to stop claiming improved gear can't possibly add up?
Look at the thread. I'm not taking you one-on-one. Does me no good to adress someone singly. Now I know I'm good at making it sound like I'm talking to you personally, but take a number here. I couldn't care less if they think it's the best backpiece. Bottom line: It's insignificantly better, and in most cases inferior. I do just fine hitting bolts with my big bad C skill.I certainly don't care if you want one or not. That's never been a part of my argument.
Skaw said:Peregrine said:I don't want one. I hit bolts in xp parties with my C skill. I could afford it. I'm not a teen with mommy's credit card though.
Oh, and I'm sure those bolts you're landing are helping your DPS out SO MUCH!
Peregrine said:Skaw said:Peregrine said:I don't want one. I hit bolts in xp parties with my C skill. I could afford it. I'm not a teen with mommy's credit card though.
Oh, and I'm sure those bolts you're landing are helping your DPS out SO MUCH!
35 a hit? Acid bolt that lowers defense? If I hit on the pull then hit on the incoming when I'm at camp and am too far away to melee, that's 70 damage, regardless of how much acid bolting improves my DPS. So yes. Be sure that those bolts I'm landing are helping my DPS out. And yours, because SOMEONE has to improve it. You're certainly not with your strawman mantle.
Peregrine said:35 a hit? Acid bolt that lowers defense? If I hit on the pull then hit on the incoming when I'm at camp and am too far away to melee, that's 70 damage, regardless of how much acid bolting improves my DPS. So yes. Be sure that those bolts I'm landing are helping my DPS out. And yours, because SOMEONE has to improve it. You're certainly not with your strawman mantle.
Peregrine said:It DOESN'T add up. You can't equip 20 more strength than someone else based on +1 whoring. They can easily get +15 with 1/100 of the gil and make your equipment insignificantly better. Anything you can do, they can do equally and for cheaper. If you don't believe me, I'm sorry you wasted your money. It doesn't add up. Now if you want to go ahead and admit that you're just vain and proud of yourself, go ahead and do that now. Your performance is not significantly different because you drop millions for 1 stat up at a time. Admit it or be wrong. I could equip 20 more strength than I currently do too...for about 200k. It's irrelevant, because you have to balance all your stats. You can't whore one and call that an argument.
Prove it. Parse it. I mean, I know you won't, because you already believe it can't make a difference no hard numbers can change your mind. And to go back to the 'you can't get 20 more STR' I offer you this, compliments of my MNK75:
[NOTE: I know some of these are LOL NEVER IN A BILLION YEARS pieces but just bear with me, this is a gauntlet you threw down, not me.]
H2H: Waghs -> Vishnu's Cesti (+2 STR)
Head: Shura Zunari Kabuto -> SZK +1 (+1 STR)
Neck: Spike Necklace (not counting Sea Torques)
Earrings: Minuet Earring -> Triumph Earring and Spike Earring -> Triumph Earring (+3 STR)
Body: No viable STR piece (Not counting Kirin's Osode)
Hands: Temple Gloves/O. Kote -> Alky's Bracelets (+7-11 STR)
Rings: Ruby Ring -> Vulcan's Ring (+4 STR)
Back: Amemet +1 -> Forager's (+1 STR)
Waist: Brown Belt -> Black Belt (+2 STR)
Legs: Shura Haidate -> Haidate +1 (+1 STR)
Feet: AF -> RSE1/2 or Mountain Gaiters (+1-4 STR depending on race)
There ya go. +24-29 STR through '+1 whoring.' It CAN be done. And please quote me the gear that'll give you an extra 20 STR for 200k.
Macro in some ranged skill if you can't hit a ranged on the incoming of a pull. Heck, you probably don't even have a ranged attack equipment set to try.
Gimps.
You're so right. I should really get a ranged attack/accuracy set of gear to boost my E in Throwing. God damn, do I feel stupid pulling with Chi Blast when I could be swapping all my gear to get a bonus on my Pebble chucking! So should all those stupid, stupid DRKs that have been using Bomb Cores instead of their E rated crossbows.
Skaw said:Peregrine said:35 a hit? Acid bolt that lowers defense? If I hit on the pull then hit on the incoming when I'm at camp and am too far away to melee, that's 70 damage, regardless of how much acid bolting improves my DPS. So yes. Be sure that those bolts I'm landing are helping my DPS out. And yours, because SOMEONE has to improve it. You're certainly not with your strawman mantle.
OH WOW! 70 damage! So 1 punch in my case. :?
How many dagger hits do you think you score during each fight?
Even if +1 STR only added 1 damage a hit, it'd be close to 70 damage, yet it would still be considered "insignificant" why?