Ultimate Revenge on Sis

Both fucked up, the sister for being a rat, and the brother for taking revenge a bit too far. Does it stop it from being funny? Nah, that shit's hilarious but hey, maybe now some of these dudes will avoid her and who knows, the brother might have saved her from getting herself knocked up?
 
Mire, I thought those were scores of some sort. They wouldn't be in chronological order.. and that's just weird.

Dude I think they were date of completion. That's why it's crossed off after the date is written next to it. (month/day) Otherwise scoring a 10 out of 4 would just make that guy awesome.
 
There's admittedly a double standard between guys and girls in high school.

If a chick sleeps with everyone she wants, she's a slut. If a guy does it, he's a player, or whatever the fuck kids called themselves these days. However!

Guys having a list like that would, most of the time, be a dream list, something they can't really just... go do. A girl in high school, though? Men are dumb and easily manipulated through hormones.

A guy with a list like that would be lucky to meet a single entry. A girl who wants to could probably come onto every guy she meets and do whatever she wanted.

Of course, being the geeky homely bastard I am, I could just be way off base.
 
I heard this somewhere and it makes the most sense. Think about it this way, a key that can open many locks a good thing right? A lock that can be opened by many keys...not so good. :S

I think it's probably an innate sexual jealousy thing from males more than something like that though.
 
See it was my impression, when I read it, that this was a list of things she'd already done. Now that I know more, it changes a little bit. Some of it seems to have been completed already (as far as the dates on the margine show) at the time of posting. Those of you that have disagreed with me for calling her a "slut" or anyone here for making fun of her, I honestly think its fair to call her that.

Where I grew up, if you slept around you were labeled one. You call a spade, a spade. Even the popular girls. "Yeah she's popular but if its rumored you have a big dick she'll be on it like flies on shit" is something I remember a guy I used to work with in high school that was popular, said of his ex-girlfriend. Guess his wasn't big enough, I dont know. (Was kinda shocked about finding that out, as she was a super popular cheerleader, lol)

Moreover, I think that if her parents find out, they should call her that too, at least just once. For shock value if anything. I know well that the typical psychology of an incredibly strict home environment (as stated by the brother) can sometimes lead to acting out sexually when you're away from said situation, because no one can dictate what you do outside of the home away from the rule makers and that is certainly a situation where you can feel empowered and (obviously) a release; energetically or spiritually.

What bothers me most is that (with not knowing the girls age or education level, only going on that the list, its decorations and immaturity level) this girl is treating her virginity and her body like a side-walk-sale. There is no meaning to it. You dont have to adhere to virginity rules in a religious sense much anymore but I should think that one would in a common sense format. A woman's virginity has always been highly prized, it used to fetch things for the family that would and could pay for the rest of their lives if you're in higher social standing; therefore it was touted as a woman's most prized possession. No one is really getting a dowery anymore (at least I hope not, that would fucking suck for them) but it should still be valued by the woman as a prize.

I, as many of you my age do, come from the abstinence preached generation. I do agree with it, in theory. I think she should be, and should have been, taught that giving yourself away freely like she seems to be doesn't win you accolade or any special attention. It doesn't fullfill something within you that suddenly makes you a special and wanted person, it just makes you look (and honestly is) like someone just desperate to be accepted, appreciated and recognized. Think about it, why would she sell out her brother like that? She wanted appreciation and recognition, most narcs do. This opens up a whole lot of dysfunction on her part and the rest of the family. She shouldn't need to objectify herself to feel wanted. Later in life I think she'll understand that, or at least I hope.

Kids these days (I feel so old for saying that) don't see the value in saving themselves for something special and meaningful when they absolutely should. If you're not going to adhere to the religious doctrine of saving yourself until marriage in the name of your chosen diety, you should at least have it explained to you that you should save it for someone special. It isn't a race. Bagging more chicks or dudes than your friends doesn't make you cool, it just makes you more likely to get an STD. People should really, really get with the times and see that our sexed-up society isn't going to make sense to kids hearing "Save it! Abstain!" etc. Children should be educated in the ways to protect themselves and that you can't just bank on "Well we're kids, we won't have anything catchable" or "I can't get pregnant if <insert any number of horrifically retarded excuses there are out there>".

She should be taught how to protect herself and she should be taught that sex doesn't equal love or station. Maybe her parents should give her a fucking hug every once in a while, too. I dont know.

I still thought it was funny.
 
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To the above post, most of my friends regret their first time. Some can hardly remember it, I think it's fair to say that a lot has changed since you guys were at school.

Seeing as whenever there is a house party at least 2 sexual acts usually happen and 90% of them are regretted. And us teens of today are always wasted with free houses apparently anyway.

EDIT: Actually the term slut isn't used at all, well bar the people who quite obviously do nothing on the weekend. Seeing as our circle of friends have a knack for landing in bed with each other. I think sex with teenagers is more shrugged off anyway, I dunno it might be different in northern areas of England but I assure you my friends, nor I is trashy.

Actually I think it would be worse the more north you go. But adults never hear about what happens and I bet I don't know half the sexual details that my friends get up to, I know for a fact I don't share mine out. It happens more than what is shown of typical teen movies which is kinda funny.
 
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See it was my impression, when I read it, that this was a list of things she'd already done. Now that I know more, it changes a little bit. Some of it seems to have been completed already (as far as the dates on the margine show) at the time of posting. Those of you that have disagreed with me for calling her a "slut" or anyone here for making fun of her, I honestly think its fair to call her that.

Yea making a list of guys to do and giving it a MUST date of completion, then writing down the completed date next to ones she scored with... How is that not slutty? Maybe a BJ if he cuts his hair? OH MY YOU HAVE HIGH STANDARDS!!

I think it's perfectly fair to call her a slut. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
 
Yea making a list of guys to do and giving it a MUST date of completion, then writing down the completed date next to ones she scored with... How is that not slutty? Maybe a BJ if he cuts his hair? OH MY YOU HAVE HIGH STANDARDS!!

Wait, but didn't she only give one guy a blowjob? Even if she's been with 2 guys that's nothing sluts are people who actually do the shit. Me and my friends talk about who we would/wouldn't which is pretty much a list and pros and cons of the said person. One con could be cut your god damm hair. Now if she had this list completed she may be closer to being this slut people are making her out to be.

Who knows for her this could be a fantasy.
 
To the above post, most of my friends regret their first time. Some can hardly remember it, I think it's fair to say that a lot has changed since you guys were at school.

Seeing as whenever there is a house party at least 2 sexual acts usually happen and 90% of them are regretted. And us teens of today are always wasted with free houses apparently anyway.

EDIT: Actually the term slut isn't used at all, well bar the people who quite obviously do nothing on the weekend. Seeing as our circle of friends have a knack for landing in bed with each other. I think sex with teenagers is more shrugged off anyway, I dunno it might be different in northern areas of England but I assure you my friends, nor I is trashy.

Actually I think it would be worse the more north you go. But adults never hear about what happens and I bet I don't know half the sexual details that my friends get up to, I know for a fact I don't share mine out. It happens more than what is shown of typical teen movies which is kinda funny.

Er... thank you helping support my point? As far as "trashy" goes, thats a whole different definition. You can be high-class and still be a slut, theres no doubt about that in the least, no one said this girl (or you and your friends) are trashy.

Its only been 9 years since I've been at school. Surely the change wasn't that rapid. Maybe it was, I can't be sure. If it has, then I can honestly appoint some of this behavior at the adults of our society for either just ignoring the sex-talk or not allowing any sexual education to be given in the first place. I know thats a problem in some places, maybe its a bigger issue than we thought?

I know how I'm going to raise my child and what I'm going to explain to him/her when the time comes and even gradually as they get older. I don't want them to end up like some of your friends (and even some of my friends) who regret their first time. I want them to be able to grasp the gravity of the situation and what it means. The thoughts and emotions that come afterwards, I want to make sure my babies don't get hurt or used (by themselves or others). I don't think its too much to ask to expect people to do the same for their children. Hell, not even just peoples own children, if you're a role model in a younger persons life even.

Wait, but didn't she only give one guy a blowjob? Even if she's been with 2 guys that's nothing sluts are people who actually do the shit. Me and my friends talk about who we would/wouldn't which is pretty much a list and pros and cons of the said person. One con could be cut your god damm hair. Now if she had this list completed she may be closer to being this slut people are making her out to be.

Who knows for her this could be a fantasy.

I think you're getting a little too abstract about this. So you're saying that this could be all a fantasy; so during English class on 10/29 she thought about giving Jack a hand job, a blow job and whatever else is under that banner, but didn't really do it?

I get what you're saying about "Its only two" but who knows if that list is up to date? Who knows what else she's done it with and who, and who those people have done what with and what kind of protection they did or did not use. Do you see my point? As I said before, treating yourself like a pleasure object for gain in status or to feel like an appreciated person, is not the way to go. You're just getting used, because there is no feeling behind it, only a goal of getting off.
 
Wait, but didn't she only give one guy a blowjob? Even if she's been with 2 guys that's nothing sluts are people who actually do the shit. Me and my friends talk about who we would/wouldn't which is pretty much a list and pros and cons of the said person. One con could be cut your god damm hair. Now if she had this list completed she may be closer to being this slut people are making her out to be.

Who knows for her this could be a fantasy.

On September 13th she gave #2 a blow job.

On October 29th she gave #5 a hand job and a blow job. Possibly more but because she crossed it off as completed, I can't really see the rest.

On October 4th #9 gave her oral. "Awesome".

That and the fact that just because she hasn't "done" some of the other guys on her list, she is still trying to before April 2010.

Slut.
 
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Yes, she's a slut but like DW seemed to be conveying, her peers may not agree with the good girl cliques about defining her as a slut. Which is why I said the next day probably wasn't really that bad for her. Especially because I've seen way worse cases. This is a huge problem that I'll get to later.

I agree with Morwen about there being generations where abstinence was preached and some still follow. It is a reach in the right direction, to help those see that sex and yourself are special and should be saved for the proper partner and moment.

I don't agree that all promiscuous teenagers engage in these activites for social status or popularity, however some definitely do, most commonly among teenage boys. However, even that trend of boys is dying and even they can be labelled as sluts now. It really does go both ways.

I believe that teenagers who throw themselves at each other are doing so because they want to themselves, they enjoy it and while sometimes regretting it, that isn't always the case. "Sluts" who are whoring themselves to multiple partners in a short time are so much more comfortable with these situations than those who are unaware. This is the sad part, they are too comfortable to even understand the emotional implications their partners may be having. Just like the list says, she gives herself away for all the wrong reasons, even a hair cut, while her partners could have been crushing on her for a long time.

Sex is great and this is why I agree with Morwen, girls and boys who are most comfortable with themselves among their peers need more information besides the outdated sex-ed classes that are still being taught. Protection against STDs is common and that was a step in the right direction, however, the philosophy of it all hasn't been touched at all. Incredibly sadly, good parents who teach valuable lessons like this seem to be dwindling.

I really wish schools would enlighten their students why numerous partners can be more harm aside from social and health related problems. Most don't care at all about social downsides, otherwise they actually would abstain like some good girls and boys are taught. They don't understand how and why they should control these urges.

Being labelled a slut may not matter to them at the time, they'll realize as they become mature the difference between getting your jollies and true emotions that follow a healthy relationship. This is where true regret comes into play, not the childish day after, "OMG I can't believe I was so drunk I actually did that."
 
Did you have a fuck list like this slut did? >.>;

No but do you know what's equally fucked up? Coincidentally enough I kept a journal when I was 15, it lasted a couple months. And I did write when I lost my v-card.

Who found it and gave it to my parents is no one's business, but yeah..

I was ratted out when I was 15. And I didn't do anything fucked up.. I just lived in a fucked up situation. Chalk it up to experience.

I don't think this chick's a slut for having a list, and double standards don't fly with with me either.
 
I think you're getting a little too abstract about this. So you're saying that this could be all a fantasy; so during English class on 10/29 she thought about giving Jack a hand job, a blow job and whatever else is under that banner, but didn't really do it?

I get what you're saying about "Its only two" but who knows if that list is up to date? Who knows what else she's done it with and who, and who those people have done what with and what kind of protection they did or did not use. Do you see my point? As I said before, treating yourself like a pleasure object for gain in status or to feel like an appreciated person, is not the way to go. You're just getting used, because there is no feeling behind it, only a goal of getting off.

She's a teenager, well most likely. Sex is on the mind normally 70% of the time, more for guys I'd say so yeh she may have been thinking about Jack or whatever.

And to your other point, you're also assuming a lot here maybe she just likes sex and that's what she wants. I'm failing to see the fact she's a slut because she's been with 3 people lets say 5 max. This is fairly tame.

And going back to the fantasy part I mentioned. I know it's not fantasy any more but who are we to judge if she might get off on having a list. People are so judgemental when it comes to sex, it's the generation above us who are at wrong if anyone for allowing all the exposure to it. And no I'm not just talking about parents I'm talking about news, advertisements etc.

On September 13th she gave #2 a blow job.

On October 29th she gave #5 a hand job and a blow job. Possibly more but because she crossed it off as completed, I can't really see the rest.

On October 4th #9 gave her oral. "Awesome".

That and the fact that just because she hasn't "done" some of the other guys on her list, she is still trying to before April 2010.

Slut.

Like I said above. Apparently A LOT has changed because this is fairly tameish. Now I'm no way saying that everyone is like this, but a large group of people I know are. And no one thinks of them as sluts, slags or whores. Only the truly dirty bitches get named this, that's the thing with terms between different generations society changes and people don't normally adjust their terms.
 
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She's no slut, I mean hell, what's wrong with a woman having a serious sexual appetite? Hell all she's been doin is giving out BJ's and HJ's, so yeah, I gotta agree with DW here in that all she's been doin is pretty damn tame. I mean hell, there's women out there who balk at the prospect of giving they man head.

To call her a slut based off of this is really absurd. Think about it, I'm sure at least 90% of you have known women who are a lot more loose in their morals than this girl.
 
She's no slut, I mean hell, what's wrong with a woman having a serious sexual appetite? Hell all she's been doin is giving out BJ's and HJ's, so yeah, I gotta agree with DW here in that all she's been doin is pretty damn tame. I mean hell, there's women out there who balk at the prospect of giving they man head.

To call her a slut based off of this is really absurd. Think about it, I'm sure at least 90% of you have known women who are a lot more loose in their morals than this girl.

Yes and many of them started out like "Oh its only a hand job" or "Its only a blow job, no big deal". In fact, one of them was so stupid they've been living with HIV since they were 19. Any time before that she and others went through boyfriends like mad because she didn't/doesn't know how to connect with their partner on a level other than "Do you want it from the front or the back". Its not about if she's a slut or not, its about how misguided she is. There is more to being a woman than weilding the massive sexual appetite one has in high school like a weapon or a bargaining chip.

I'm saying that if her parents found out about this, they should slap her with the slut card if only for shock value in trying to get her fucking attention and keeping her from either completely ruining her life due to uneducation or complicating it completely by ending up being branded an honest-to-goodness slutbag or becoming a teen mother. There are better things for girls to worry about than shit like this. If her parents are completely unawares of her sexual knowledge and activity, whose to say she's even on birth control other than using some shotty condom in a teen dudes wallet thats been there for god-only-knows how long and he got from god-only-knows where? What if she thinks she'll get it easier if she doesn't use a condom because a lot of guys dont like them because they "cant feel anything"?

You're a parent, what would you do if this was your daughter, Hexx?
 
I have a list of people who I'd very much like to choke, smile, and watch the life drain from their eyes. Granted I haven't written it down, but does that make me a murderer? Nope, because I would never kill them. But a person can dream.... Perhaps she is a dreamer too.

If she was such a slut, she would have no V-card to give. Cool your engines boys, let a lady have some fun.

Both her and her brother will have to deal with the bad karma they are sharing amongst themselves. Good luck to them.
 
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She certainly needs some awareness. An onlookers view would serve well.

As far as whether or not she is an honest to goodness slut, ho, skank, tramp or any other colourful term is and would always be up for debate. There's a line, and that line is what everyone will base their personal opinion on.. for the most part.
 
Yes and many of them started out like "Oh its only a hand job" or "Its only a blow job, no big deal". In fact, one of them was so stupid they've been living with HIV since they were 19. Any time before that she and others went through boyfriends like mad because she didn't/doesn't know how to connect with their partner on a level other than "Do you want it from the front or the back". Its not about if she's a slut or not, its about how misguided she is. There is more to being a woman than weilding the massive sexual appetite one has in high school like a weapon or a bargaining chip.

I'm saying that if her parents found out about this, they should slap her with the slut card if only for shock value in trying to get her fucking attention and keeping her from either completely ruining her life due to uneducation or complicating it completely by ending up being branded an honest-to-goodness slutbag or becoming a teen mother. There are better things for girls to worry about than shit like this. If her parents are completely unawares of her sexual knowledge and activity, whose to say she's even on birth control other than using some shotty condom in a teen dudes wallet thats been there for god-only-knows how long and he got from god-only-knows where? What if she thinks she'll get it easier if she doesn't use a condom because a lot of guys dont like them because they "cant feel anything"?

You're a parent, what would you do if this was your daughter, Hexx?

Oh I'm not arguing the fact that she isn't misguided, for she very much is. Neither am I condoning her behavior, but just stating that there are people who do much much worse at her age. Trust me, I've known a few.

As for how I would feel if it was my daughter doing this? Hell yeah I'd be extremely upset, but this is where education comes into play. How you raise your kids determines in the end how they turn out. Whether it be discipline, or lack of, either one of those in excess is bad. If you're too much of a hardass with your kids, they will rebel and go crazy the moment they're free of you, but at the same time, if you lack a strong hand they will also take advantage of it and make a fool out of you. If I did all I could to instill into my daughter the fact that this kind of behavior is unbecoming, and she still goes off and does it what in the hell else can I as a parent do? You cant monitor your kids 24/7 all you can do is teach them the best you can and hope for the best.

Cheebs put it best I think, there is a fine line between having a healthy sexual appetite, and being an outright whore. Unfortunately, where that line is drawn is subjective of the people who are looking in.
 
I have a list of people who I'd very much like to choke, smile, and watch the life drain from their eyes. Granted I haven't written it down, but does that make me a murderer? Nope, because I would never kill them. But a person can dream.... Perhaps she is a dreamer too.

If she was such a slut, she would have no V-card to give. Cool your engines boys, let a lady have some fun.

Both her and her brother will have to deal with the bad karma they are sharing amongst themselves. Good luck to them.

That is the most retarded comparison I have ever seen. Seriously. You should be banned for that.

And the part that made me think she's a slut is she had a goal to get this done by. So after April 2010 is she going to make a summer list? Healthy Sexual Appetite is awesome don't get me wrong, but giving yourself deadlines to get with these people seems kinda whorish.
 
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