Zanaga. As Mistaya said, Dhalmel lowers DEF. I think it would be more worth it to have erase to counter a move that majorly lowers DEF than to have a bit more MP for shining ruby. Once again this is my opinion.
read closely next time -.-
Fighting dhamels in Bibiki Bay. Dhamel uses its defense down move. Suddenly our level 70 Elvaan pld's def is no joke "115".
key words in there are: Dhamels, Bibiki Bay, and level 70
nothing i said did i refer to shining ruby countering def down, i said when struggling on harder mobs, i can use it to boost def and encrease the party capabilites, making it easier to put the mob out of it's misery.
Cmon guys... its only 300k. /sigh
if 300k is that little to you, send me 300k to my DB, i bought erase before this thread had even started, and i really wanted a magician's earring, which is 300k, so since it's such a little ammount, i wanna see you send me 300k to my DB.
this is the same crap that is going to happen with raise III, if it shoots up to 800k again. i deal with death, and getting raise all the time, not raise II mind you, just plaing old raise, the good old lvl 25 spell. i have yet to complain about it, i dont' care, i'm getting xp back, i'm happy, mabye i'm lucky and reraise II is on, which comes several lvls later, so for about 6 lvls everyone BUT the white mage enjoys the luxary of raise II, then at lvl 60 the white mage has to remember to keep reraise II up, so they can enjoy the luxary of raise II, raise III is lvl 70, reraise III is lvl 75, there is luxary, and there is need, decifer the differance. you may NEED a raise, but you don't NEED a raise II or III.
us white mages put up with enough crap as it is, the LAST thing we need to hear, is something as stupid as a group of melee, who think they know how to play white mage, telling us to buy a 300k luxary spell. granted it's been shown that there is a slight need for it, in bibiki bay, at lvl 70
so apparently all you melee have proved so far, is that it's need is for 70+, cause i do see a problem with a lvl 70 pld having less then 200 def. but this still isn't the best choice to lvl off of these dhamel in bibiki bay if they are going to send the PLD's def down that much, consider the casting time for erase, it's about 2.5x slower then your normal ensauna spells. if i were a PLD, i'd be avoiding those dhamel like the plague.
there are 2 things i know, i'm not going to get that 300k in my DB, and that all anyone is ever going to do, is complain because white mages don't have this crappy little spell, so they will continue to wine and complain because of it. none of you will take action to make it easier to access for white mages, because YOU DON'T CARE! i've mentioned multiple times on ways to make this spell more readily accessable to white mages, everyone so far has overlooked those ways. if i had enough beastmen seals and a party that was willing, i'd lower that stupid price to 50k. if your interested, in helping me make this spell more accessable, then gimme a tell in game, or post, offering your help. currently though, i dont' expect any of you to do this, because you think 300k is such a small ammount of gil.