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[SARCASM] Bring back the old British Empire, most of these problems all started when we let everywhere have independance [/SARCASM]
[SARCASM] Bring back the old British Empire, most of these problems all started when we let everywhere have independance [/SARCASM]
Nuclear energy doesnt degrade the o-zone layer if that is what you are saying. Its the cleanest way to produce energy in this world without damaging our enviorment.
About the only thing you got right was the UN creating Israel.
Are you one of the people that believe all White House press releases? If so you're an idiot. There have been reports that have said there are no ties to Iraq to 9/11. Stop fapping your mouth and actually read news online.
Sharpe said it before with the Quran not wanting people to kill and people living in harmony. Wanna know why? WE have the SAME FUCKING GOD. Judaism, Islamic, and Christianity share the same deity. I had to say it twice for emphasis. The problem with Middle-eastern nations is only about 1/3 of them can actually read and have an education. Otherwise most of the peoples are easily influenced. Watch let's take a basic passage: God says Thou shall not kill. With a few edits I can go... (Dramatic suspense) God says Thou shall ... kill. Amazing isn't? That is what basically happens and you get the martyrs who think they'll get 72 virgins, come on where would one find 72 virgins?
Also 9/11 wasn't the first attempt of Al Qaeda trying to attack the WTC. I believe it was 1991 when there was bombs set off in the underground parking garages of the WTC buildings and they found out that Osama Bin Laden was connected to those. Didn't Bill Clinton in 1998 do air-raid to Baghdad for some reason?
The U.S. backed so many of those countries because they were fighting against communism. That is the only reason the U.S. backed any of those nations. What did we do after they gained their independence? We left them to themselves to figure it out. That is why they don't like us. WE fucked them over and left them to get dictator to rule them so the country could work a certain extent. Once again THAT is why they don't like us.
Carpet bomb Israel over what? They let the Palestinians get the city. Are they still fighting? Yes because it will be like that because that is the holy city to Hebrew people. All I get from your post is intolerance of Jews. Just like Cartmen blame it on the Jews.
1 - Where did I say that Iraq had anything to do with 9/11? I didn't, so what's your point?
2 - Yeah, so Christianity, Judaism and Islam all have the same god, and all are "peaceful". That may be, on some level, true, except you have all three religions, either in the past, or in the present, killing others for, at the most core reasons, not being of the same religion as the killers. Why else would the Americas and the Caribbean islands be Christian? Or Africa being mostly Christian or Islamic? Or parts of Asia being either Christian or Islamic? Some was conversion, some wasn't, it was forced. The Inquisition? Rome became Christian because Constantine thought "God" saved him one day. He still used his armies to kill people afterwards, only he was suddenly doing it in the name of the Christian god. The Muslim sweep across North Africa and parts of Spain? It was a conquest, and when the armies entered the cities, they killed the natives if they didn't convert (and weren't women). And then there's all those battles that the Old Testament talks about, and the wrathful, vengeful god that the Israelites fought for. Seriously, the "good books" can talk all they want about being peaceful, but in practice they're not really all that peaceful (or haven't been, at times, in their past). Strangely enough, the oldest one, Judaism, stopped their fighting first, the second oldest one, Christianity, stopped their fighting (for the most part) second, and the youngest one, Islam, still wants to kill Jews.
3 - Carpet bomb Israel - yeah, so I was being sarcastic. But they only way this problem (the "middle east" problem) is going away is if you get rid of at least an entire side of haters. Now way you can get the intelligence to know who each and every anti-American/anti-Western/anti-Israel Muslim is, so just get rid of them all and the problem goes away. But hey, that still leaves the other side (Israel), and that wouldn't be fair. So get rid of both sides completely and you suddenly have zero problems relating to Arab-Israeli relations. But again, sarcasm.
4 - Well, if we didn't intervene on the opposite side of USSR, I'm sure those countries would have been just peachy, eh? It's not exactly cool what we did, but it wasn't exactly cool what the USSR did, either, yet because they collapsed, it's all the US' fault now?
5 - I read online that there's buildings on Mars and an inter-dimensional teleportation device INSIDE Saturn. That makes it true?
indyracing said:Afghanistan (and Iraq, rightly or wrongly) is/are the result of 9/11. If 9/11 didn't happen, the US wouldn't have bombed the crap out of those two nations. Maybe 9/11 happened because of the first Gulf War (when the US bombed the crap out of Iraq), but ultimately, they are retaliation (and a bit of preventativeness) for an act.
I say we carpet bomb and destroy the entire country. Kill everyone, and start over. Dead people aren't much of a threat to our lives, now are they? If you're worried about the innocent people that would die too, then stfu and get over it. In the end, it's the only way to be safe from the radical and irrational views that islam forces upon it's people. Iran, Iraq, shit the whole middle east is a sesspool of hate, death, and crime. Eliminate the middle east and N. Korea and you have yourself a much safer world. All it takes it the push of a couple buttons and a good use to our tax money that's already invested in the weapons necessary to kill them all.
Before you flame me: Yes, that is Genocide. But as a culture, they've demonstrated that they're main will is to slay their enemies. In this modern world that is unacceptable, and it's better to kill than be killed.
sorry what? I'm not a homicidal maniac
it's a front if you know what Islam represents tyvm
that's a pretty fucking ignorant thing to say, how about we go ask N. and S.Korea how they are treating each other?
See: South Park episode 108, "All About Mormons". God I love that one.most religious tomes are written a.) by commitee, b.) for personal/political power, and c.) by people who aren't what we would call well grounded in reality.
Yes, I dislike france because the majority of their populace hates America.
PS: Yes, I dislike france because the majority of their populace hates America. News flash: We gave you your country back. Twice.
History is adjusted in many countries to outline their strengths it seems. When I was in high school there was strong discussion and emphasis placed on the Battle of Vimy Ridge, which was taken by Canadian forces in WW2.My gosh, and you Americans wonder why people don't like you. Not judging you all on this one particular example, but seriously - what the devil are you teaching in your schools?
I quite agree - Kotsu, you're a complete loon.
My gosh, and you Americans wonder why people don't like you. Not judging you all on this one particular example, but seriously - what the devil are you teaching in your schools?
I quite agree - Kotsu, you're a complete loon.
My gosh, and you Americans wonder why people don't like you. Not judging you all on this one particular example, but seriously - what the devil are you teaching in your schools?
Khidir said:Why worry about what others think if you can do it peacefully?
My question would be this:
Why specifically us?
What Kotsu is expressing is a minority opinion on the matter. What about tin pot dictators like Kim Jong Il, or the lunatic in Iran, a country part of whose stance on world history is that the Holocaust never happened? What about those currently conducting genocide and rape campaigns in Africa? They get a free pass because they're not so "enlightened" as we?
Yeah, go ahead and keep thinking we're the bad guys, a nation so evil that instead of just blowing up your country, we'll stick around long enough to help you rebuild it, get stable politically, socially, and economically then place the reigns back in the hands in which they rightfully belong. We've got 60 years worth of that little atrocity under our belts.
We're the bad guys all right, so totally deserving of the disgust and ire of the civilized world.
As to what they teach in our schools, well, one thing they teach us is this: we're a nation that was started by a bunch of people who first fled religious persecution, then rebelled against a tax system they found to be tyrannical and unjust. Leaving the tax issue aside, let's address the religious persecution angle.
I have no doubt that the vast majority of Muslims are peaceful, tolerant people who are fundamentally no different than myself; however, they are allowing their religion to be hijacked by a small, well-funded minority of fanatical nutbags, even to the point of allowing some entire countries to succumb to their machinations. And you want to talk about intolerance and religious persecution? Try some of these on for size:
· In Turkey, it is a punishable offense to convert to Christianity. It is also a crime to proselytize on the Christian faith.
· In Afghanistan, it was a capital offense to convert from Islam to any other faith. The law remained on the books even after the Taliban was ousted from power.
· When the Shah of Iran went into exile, there were instances where Christians were crucified.
If that’s not religious persecution, I don’t know what is. It’s ok though, I can see where the rest of world would want to focus its anger on us, a country so afraid of coming off as bigoted, racist, or fanatical that we won’t even secure our own borders. Hell, it’s harder to get into Mexico, for God’s sake. Don’t believe me? Ask the boxcar of Hondurans that they sent home.
So by all means, ye “civilized societies,” keep looking down your noses at us piggish, warmongering Americans. Keep turning a blind eye to the fact that the only reason there are any free nations in the modern world is that a lot of men with a lot of guns shed a lot of blood to buy us a place to stand and debate one another. And just as quickly as our nations arose, they could once again vanish. Keep in mind, the concepts of democracy, the republic - everything we see as the building blocks of the modern Western nation, all these were originally envisioned by Greek and Roman philosophers. These concepts were swept out of humanity’s grasp for more than two thousand years, largely on an ocean of religious fanaticism.
Now please, don’t misunderstand me, Eliott, I’m only quoting you because your post best summarized the worldview that angers me so as an American. I’m also not pounding my chest in defense of Christianity here. The examples of Christian persecution are simply the most ready examples of the schism so obviously extant within the Muslim faith, and by extension Muslim countries.
Even though I don't (and I'm willing to bet the overwhelming majority of Americans don't either) agree with each and every thing Kotsu has had to say on this topic, I'll defend with my last breath his right to say it.