I started in this thread just explaining a couple things about hate, and it kind of escalated. When I heard about this I was like "eep that sucks", but as a bst who has been MPK'd and has had even the most miniscule NMs stolen from me while soloing I am just used to it happening. This is the same, as a shell we aren't reeling over this by any means, we just want to make sure that the people who did this are known and we don't appreciate it and try to set a precedent for others who think it is okay to do things similarly. If/when we do Tiamat we practically expect it to get stolen on Quetz and pretty much any server, but we want to do it anyway. We know the risks involved so I would just appreciate it if people would stop assuming that we don't and are just that naive.