Phraust is such a numbers dork.
Phraust said:Raivyn said:That was supposed to say:
I agree completely, although adding in attk when it does not sacrifice acc doesn't hurt. Priority number one in your standard party is TP gain to facilitate skillchain. No question about that.
The problem is this:
You don't have a lot of shared accuracy/attack slots:
Body, Neck, Back, and Waste.
In my Accuracy/Attack mode I got 62 Accuracy, and 50 Attack before Food. I hit between 20-30 damage on normal hits. With Sole Sushi. With Chief Kabobs, I hit between 23-35 damage. Where the difference in Attack is not all that great, the difference in accuracy is.
100 Hits @ 23-35 damage - 16% accuracy loss = 1,932-2,940 Dmg, 420 % TP
100 Hits @ 20-30 damage - 00% accuracy loss = 2,000-3,000 Dmg, 500%TP
You basically miss out on a Whole Skillchain, AND the damage from doiong more hits.
TiyaKelth said:For a gimp, Pere sure sounds like an elitist.
Phraust said:You guys are melee. You need accuracy. Hitting the mob for your weapon damage doesn't matter any more. It hasn't for about 8-9 levels.
Your Job as melee: Get TP ASAP, and use it in a skillchain, and leave the DMG for the Mages.
Single Hits, DoT, and your Damage is nothing. You think your 20 Dmg hit or your 60 Dmg Crit means anything? Thief hits 20 hits for 100 TP, 10% crit rate, that's only 480 damage. For a Drk, swinging in the same time, 9 hits for ~108 TP, and amassing 540 Damage in that time.
I do 480 Damage on hits, and 600-900 Dmg on Mobs that drop 200+ Exp Each.
...Do I worry about attack gear? No...
Drk, Thf, War, Rng, etc... It doesn't fucking matter. It's about how quickly, and reliabley you can get the Skillchain in. And Accuracy is what helps you more than anything. If replacing accuracy gear with attack gear helps you, have at it. But it's a waste if you are not hitting 0's.
Raivyn said:Hey pere stay on topic we're talking about acc food and gear not how much of a gimp you are/aren't.
Just one post ago you were talking about how you didnt make the BLM carry the pt because you eat attack food.
Now I show you that phraust's dmg is higher than yours while eating acc food and you change subjects. Stay on topic.
Phraust's dmg > yours by however much, meaning that he in fact makes other jobs work less than you claim to. Talking like you is like trying to teach a pig to sing, I swear.
Peregrine said:I'll be damned if a black mage has to do 2000 damage in one of my parties. Basically all they should have to do in a working party is debilitate and burst.
Reading comprehension is your friend. I said my parse damage was around 1100 with my old "gimp" setup. That means sushi-eating and attack-equipping. Now on weapons I equip this stupid scorpion harness and eat attack food. I've yet to parse myself with this vanity on, but it's probably more.
And seriously...read any one of the major ffxi forums. They'd laugh their asses off if you came to them and bragged that you ate sushi and had good acc gear. They would ROLL.
Skaw said:Raivyn said:Hey pere stay on topic we're talking about acc food and gear not how much of a gimp you are/aren't.
Just one post ago you were talking about how you didnt make the BLM carry the pt because you eat attack food.
Now I show you that phraust's dmg is higher than yours while eating acc food and you change subjects. Stay on topic.
Phraust's dmg > yours by however much, meaning that he in fact makes other jobs work less than you claim to. Talking like you is like trying to teach a pig to sing, I swear.
What the hell is your problem? If Phraust is hitting for 150 more than Peregrin a fight, and Phraust is hitting on average 50, you know what that means? Phraust landed a whopping 3 hits more.
HOLY SHIT GUYS! THREE FUCKING HITS!
And as mentioned, Phraust also subs WAR, if it's true, it would also account for the higher numbers, and no need to eat attack food to produce those numbers.
Peregrin was staying on topic, you're the one that isn't taking what he says, just so you can continue to rag on him for not pumping out ACC gear, which does have an eventual drop off, since you can never have 100% Accuracy. If you don't believe that, then keep out of the Melee game. A lot of accuracy is good. Too much is pointless.
Phraust said:I hit between 20-30 damage on normal hits. With Sole Sushi. With Chief Kabobs, I hit between 23-35 damage.