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Alright, this rant is all based off of this post:
This deserves it's own thread so I am making one for my rant. I apologize ahead of time as I am a little tired so this probably hit me harder than it should of.
WTH? I am sick and tired of posts like this. Sure, I will grant that it can be easier to get an invite based on certain jobs. However I resent the fact that just because I am a Blm, that getting to 75 is "easy". Damnit, I put a TON of hours into getting the best gear I could, none of it was "easy". I got news for you, there are all kinds of jobs out there that get to 75 without a problem. I have seen several people who play "less desired" jobs sprint past me.
As a friend in this game says, "It is not a race to 75". This is so true. I hear people all the time say that they don't need this or that or that they will get it when they get to a higher level. If you want to play that way, fine. For me, however, I took several months off of leveling so I could farm/craft/mine/log my way to a set of HQ staves. My personal theory is (and this is just for myself) why should I wait till later or not at all to get this eq? I only get to play this job one time through, why not get that piece of eq while I still have lots of time to use it? I want to play this character the BEST that I can, and the REALITY is that it means playing it with good eq. Again, this is just me. If someone else wants to play it a different way, fine.
To comment on skill. I am so sick of hearing that eq doesnt equal skill. This is both true and complete bullshit at the same time. The reality is, there is no "skill" in this game, there is only intelligence and timing and the rest is all your equipment. You are not the one swinging the weopan. Skill are the ones who actually, physically do things. Athletes, Craftsman, tradeworkers, doctors, etc all have the ability to be skillful. In the video game world, FPS, certain sports games, etc do take some skill, this game does not. Again, Intelligence and timing are the human factors in this game, not skill.
As far as equipment goes, this game is based on a "dice roll" system. I am not a big D&D nut, so perhaps someone can explain this better than me, but basically what this means is that in every action there is a simulated "dice roll" event that takes place. Every time a weapon is swung, a DR happens to determine if you hit, another to determine how much, another to determine crits etc. This isnt ALL chance, the outcome is also influenced by modifers. Where do these modifiers come from? Equipment and Food. You could be Albert Fucking Einstein, but if you have sub-par eq, and you play with Spongebob in all HQ eq, Spongebob will hit for more and more often. This is an undisputable fact.
I had the pleasure to play with another Blm my level the other day. He had decent eq. But he only had an Ice and Dark staff, and no elemental torque. He used a rolanberry pie, while I used a melon +1. I constantly outdamaged him by 50-100 pts per spell and 150-300 on bursts. My enfeebles stuck more and he got half resists alot where I had virtually non, there by increasing the DoT gap. Was he an "unskillful" player? Not even a little bit. His MP conservation was excellent, he didnt cast any stupid spells, and he didn't miss bursts. So what was the difference? Eq and food.
I am sorry if what I have to say offends and makes people angry, I am sorry but it is just a fact of VanaDiel life that every point of AGI, DEX, STR, INT, ACC, etc does, in fact, matter. Can you have good gear and be a good player? Yes. Do you need to have great gear and be a great player to be the best? Yes! Can you have great gear and still be a bad player? Yes! Now before someone comes in and says, "But you just said..." If you have awesome EQ but can't skillchain or burst or adjust to save your life, you Suck! In fact, the last example is probably the WORST player EVER! It's like being given the keys to a ferari and not being able to beat a Yugo in a race.
Do I call out other people if they dont have the "best"? Nope. Will I call out a person who doesn't skillchain, etc? Absolutely. Again, I play my job/character in such a way so that I can be the best. However I am tired of being told that I play an "easy" job. I am tired of keeping my mouth shut on this topic because I dont want to be accussed of being a "gil buyer" or risk being outcasted for being an "elitest". I worked DAMN hard to be the best and to be put in a generalization that my job is "easy" or that Whm has it tougher because of the cost of Erase or Raise3, is just an insult to my work.
If saying all of this makes me an elistest pig, so fucking be it. I am tired of watching from the shadows and keeping my mouth shut.
Elemmire said:
This deserves it's own thread so I am making one for my rant. I apologize ahead of time as I am a little tired so this probably hit me harder than it should of.
WTH? I am sick and tired of posts like this. Sure, I will grant that it can be easier to get an invite based on certain jobs. However I resent the fact that just because I am a Blm, that getting to 75 is "easy". Damnit, I put a TON of hours into getting the best gear I could, none of it was "easy". I got news for you, there are all kinds of jobs out there that get to 75 without a problem. I have seen several people who play "less desired" jobs sprint past me.
As a friend in this game says, "It is not a race to 75". This is so true. I hear people all the time say that they don't need this or that or that they will get it when they get to a higher level. If you want to play that way, fine. For me, however, I took several months off of leveling so I could farm/craft/mine/log my way to a set of HQ staves. My personal theory is (and this is just for myself) why should I wait till later or not at all to get this eq? I only get to play this job one time through, why not get that piece of eq while I still have lots of time to use it? I want to play this character the BEST that I can, and the REALITY is that it means playing it with good eq. Again, this is just me. If someone else wants to play it a different way, fine.
To comment on skill. I am so sick of hearing that eq doesnt equal skill. This is both true and complete bullshit at the same time. The reality is, there is no "skill" in this game, there is only intelligence and timing and the rest is all your equipment. You are not the one swinging the weopan. Skill are the ones who actually, physically do things. Athletes, Craftsman, tradeworkers, doctors, etc all have the ability to be skillful. In the video game world, FPS, certain sports games, etc do take some skill, this game does not. Again, Intelligence and timing are the human factors in this game, not skill.
As far as equipment goes, this game is based on a "dice roll" system. I am not a big D&D nut, so perhaps someone can explain this better than me, but basically what this means is that in every action there is a simulated "dice roll" event that takes place. Every time a weapon is swung, a DR happens to determine if you hit, another to determine how much, another to determine crits etc. This isnt ALL chance, the outcome is also influenced by modifers. Where do these modifiers come from? Equipment and Food. You could be Albert Fucking Einstein, but if you have sub-par eq, and you play with Spongebob in all HQ eq, Spongebob will hit for more and more often. This is an undisputable fact.
I had the pleasure to play with another Blm my level the other day. He had decent eq. But he only had an Ice and Dark staff, and no elemental torque. He used a rolanberry pie, while I used a melon +1. I constantly outdamaged him by 50-100 pts per spell and 150-300 on bursts. My enfeebles stuck more and he got half resists alot where I had virtually non, there by increasing the DoT gap. Was he an "unskillful" player? Not even a little bit. His MP conservation was excellent, he didnt cast any stupid spells, and he didn't miss bursts. So what was the difference? Eq and food.
I am sorry if what I have to say offends and makes people angry, I am sorry but it is just a fact of VanaDiel life that every point of AGI, DEX, STR, INT, ACC, etc does, in fact, matter. Can you have good gear and be a good player? Yes. Do you need to have great gear and be a great player to be the best? Yes! Can you have great gear and still be a bad player? Yes! Now before someone comes in and says, "But you just said..." If you have awesome EQ but can't skillchain or burst or adjust to save your life, you Suck! In fact, the last example is probably the WORST player EVER! It's like being given the keys to a ferari and not being able to beat a Yugo in a race.
Do I call out other people if they dont have the "best"? Nope. Will I call out a person who doesn't skillchain, etc? Absolutely. Again, I play my job/character in such a way so that I can be the best. However I am tired of being told that I play an "easy" job. I am tired of keeping my mouth shut on this topic because I dont want to be accussed of being a "gil buyer" or risk being outcasted for being an "elitest". I worked DAMN hard to be the best and to be put in a generalization that my job is "easy" or that Whm has it tougher because of the cost of Erase or Raise3, is just an insult to my work.
If saying all of this makes me an elistest pig, so fucking be it. I am tired of watching from the shadows and keeping my mouth shut.
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