HNM LS Ethics

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I just wanna see King Behemoth!!!!! :?

Been going there for 5 consecutives days as a level 1 job to get a glimpse at it.... should have known I just had to follow someone. :wink:

Sorry, I had to say something stupid, please continue.......
 
Hah... Kurei owes people probably half the gil he is carrying around. He aint rich just cause he's a determined player =[
 
Mistaya was in HNMHunters, not Ascension. When we were HNMHunters we tried to be ethical still. Even though I don't support using /sea on a name to get HNM spawns and such, it comes down to ethics. Kurei's shell was in no way ethical to us, and we in no way owed it to be ethical back to them. Not many of us chose to use that, but I will not fault a member for using the same tactic against someone that that someone uses against us.

Svina, other than that one non linkshell incident involving 3 of our members so many months ago. That incident which made you decide to wage a crusade against our entire linkshell over, as I recall. What is your basis for insisting that we're dishonest? You're the one who first posted in this thread hinting that we were paranoid, people weren't doing that to us, maybe we were camping the wrong HNM's at the wrong times. You were the one who later stated yes you do countercamp us out of hate as you're well aware others do too. Now, after pulling a complete 180 on yourself in one single thread, you're the one calling us dishonest. Can you explain with anything besides that many month old incident which has been beaten to a pulp and back? It seems to me that you just hold a grudge against us because your application to our shell was rejected so long ago.
 
phazen said:
It seems to me that you just hold a grudge against us because your application to our shell was rejected so long ago.

LOL WHAT?

I never once applied to join your shell :lol: :lol: :lol: !! I was warned to stay away from you guys very early on, and with good reason! I would not be caught dead in Ascension. I don't know where it started but you guys spread blind rumors about my playing, that I got where I was because I cheated somehow. I don't need to go over my frickin game history to prove I obtained everything fair and square, as I have plenty of people who know what I was doing, when, and how. Besides making my life a living hell as a result of those rumors, your members proceeded to harass me for no apparent reason without being provoked, steal my claims, and from what I understand, you've also stolen plenty other claims from fair playing HNM shells, unless Maseki was lying about Amikiri. Your shell likes to talk a lot, but you really are hypocrites and play against your own rules. This is why I cannot stand your LS and want no part of it whatsoever.

That explain it?
 
BIG BEN SAY LIKE THIS, HE SAYS THAT PPLZ IN AMERICA ONLINE INTRANET VIDEO GAMES THEY ARE USUALLY FIFITENEN YEAR OLDS KIDS WHO LIKE TO TOUCH THEIR PP AND THEY DONT KNOW WHAT IS OK AND WHAT IS NOT OK (TOUCHING PP IS NOT OK BIGBEN DISLIKE THAT) SO BIG BEN SAY SOMETIMES BAD LITTLE KIDS DO BAD THINGS TO GOODGUYS LIKE IN MOVIES AND MAKE BIGBEN SAD :SADFACE:

HEY PZNAEHN GUY DONT LISTEN TO FGT CAT FISHBOTTER HE LIKES FISHIES(MEWMEW) BIGBEN SAY IF YOU CHEATING HEY THEN THEY GOT NO ETHNICISTICIES SO ITS NO POINTS TO ARGUING IT OK MAN GUY? OK

SO MORAL OF STORY

BIGBEN DONT TOUCH PP
 
Extreme retardation aside, I remember discussing your potential membership into the shell with everyone that was on at the time roughly 6 months or so back. This is where we learned that Liefe despised you so much that you were rejected without even a trial period. Anyway, even if your claims of that not happening is true, you and I both know you wern't given a chance at our dynamis shell because of again, Liefe's feelings towards you.

And since you claim that we've been spreading rumors, maybe you should get your facts straight about what happened with Amikiri. Myself, Phazen, Harb, and Djiingis can attest that we did not steal claim of Amikiri while Maseki was in the midst of fighting it. If you don't trust us enough you can ask Hailie or Streetz who will probably gladly tell you of the day he attained the GKT off of Amikiri due to our 4 member party.

I believe it was roughly a month ago when we heard one afternoon that Maseki went and attempted to take on Amikiri. We had gotten word that they had already wiped twice so we decided that since they had wiped, maybe we would have a chance of fighting it since they were unable to do so. So, we went. A PLD, WHM, and 2 BLM's vs. 1 deadly scorpion. We reached Gustav in about 15 min from the time we had heard that Maseki had wiped to Amikiri. Upon zoning in, I see Hailie standing there and as soon as she saw me, she sent me a tell saying "danger" and something along the lines of "Be careful, NM scorp ahead."

So, I started walking along with my +12% movement speed that Crimson Cuisses gives me, and what do I see around the flies that a party of 37's XP off of? You guessed it, Amikiri, unclaimed, full HP, with absolutely no aggro on anyone. Being the quickest one to Gustav, I couldn't do anything alone but my comrades were not too far behind so I waited. 10 minutes later, Amikiri (still unclaimed I might add) was provoked by me and I was able to hold it with the assistance of Phazen.

We run around for about another 10 minutes with claim on him which is enough time for our 2 BLMs to arrive and then we proceed to kill it. Did I also mention that no one else had claimed Amikiri while I was waiting for someone else to zone into Gustav? I believe I did.

Anyway, all joking aside, it took us about 40 min to kill Amikiri with the 4 of us which by that time, Maseki realized we wern't dying anytime soon and sent off the people that were assisting him roughly 10 minutes into the actual fight. So tell me, Svina, who's spreading rumors now?
 
Almaut said:
So tell me, Svina, who's spreading rumors now?

Sure aint me.

BTW, the dynamis thing was for kicks. I know how much your shell hates me in return, and you may have known I was working on forming a Dynamis shell at the time anyway. I never applied for joining your shell at any time though, so I'm not sure where you took the liberty of discussing inviting me, if that's what it was. Nonetheless... Liefe's attitude I don't know where it came from but I'd guess it was based on these rumors about me... there were only a few times I ever contacted him and it was merely for pointers on how to play SMN... and which I can say I remember him being rather helpful when I was in the low low low 10-20 level range. But beyond that any other random time I asked him about something he became more and more of an asshat. I especially liked his immediate response to "Think I can solo my AF3?" "No."... well at lvl 60. I DID (the manticore... not the weapons tho). Eat that. -_-)..|..

So tell me what exactly these rumors were, because all I know is that rumors were being spread about me, but where the grounds for them came from I don't know, and what exactly led to this retarded grudge your LS has against me...

On the topic of amikiri, I'm just mentioning the side I heard about it from, may have been off, might have been on, but I said without any doubt "I wouldn't put it past 'em". Well regardless of what you do now, maybe in the past you made a bad name for yourselves? All I know is that when I was much lower in level I asked about the HNM scene to a couple friends... and they said you were the lowest breed of human being there was... so I took it to mind haha. Then I heard about your spreading shit... and then when I come here I see your fucking sockpuppets posting that shit all over the boards. For crying out loud grow some balls and use your real name here, because you don't see me hiding behind names to protect my reputation. I can take a wild guess at who BENWALLACE, fishbot, and all them are/have been...

Anyway... I don't care what you guys do anymore, you will never be respected by me, or the rest of the community that associates Ascension with "dirt". I look at your members as very skilled players, but that does not mean I respect you.
 
On the topic of amikiri, I'm just mentioning the side I heard about it from, may have been off, might have been on, but I said without any doubt "I wouldn't put it past 'em". Well regardless of what you do now, maybe in the past you made a bad name for yourselves? All I know is that when I was much lower in level I asked about the HNM scene to a couple friends... and they said you were the lowest breed of human being there was... so I took it to mind haha. Then I heard about your spreading shit... and then when I come here I see your fucking sockpuppets posting that shit all over the boards. For crying out loud grow some balls and use your real name here, because you don't see me hiding behind names to protect my reputation. I can take a wild guess at who BENWALLACE, fishbot, and all them are/have been...

All of this is rumor. It may be what you believe but is it truth? What evidence can you show that we're the "lowest breed of human being" as you so eloquently put it? What proof do you have that BENWALLACE or fishbot is any of our shell members? There can't be people out there that hates perfect Svina is there? I hate to break it to you but the world isn't split between the people that are on our side and the people that are on your side.
 
Almaut said:
What proof do you have that BENWALLACE or fishbot is any of our shell members?

Strange how they only show up when heated discussion about me vs. your shell occur. Just sayin' is all.

And no I'm not perfect, a lot of people will tell you I am an asshole... I'm sure I've got unknown people who hate my guts. My grudge against your shell is mine alone. Other people have their reasons I'm sure also, but they aren't the same as mine. There are plenty of people who like us both, or hate us both... and frankly if they got a problem with me, they can say it to my face.
 
Funny, the last time I remember either of those mentioned accounts posting was to say that you fish botted. Explain to me how that involves our shell?
 
Check the old thread I posted in response to the Aquarius incident.
 
In all 10 pages of that useless thread, I didn't see a single post made by "fishbot" or "BENWALLACE." Rumor?
 
Honestly this is just so funny to read, I don't want it to end. I am going to add some more fuel to the flames, then just go back to enjoying. For the other people reading this, I am a former leader of Ascension (I left on good terms with Nasya at least) and also a friend of Svina.

- Svina never applied to the Ascension, I am the one who brought up his name as a potential, but then as Almaut said, he was shot down pretty damn fast.

- BEN WALLACE is an Ascension Member by the name of Kisada. Everyone in Ascension knows this because he liked to brag about it in LS Chat alot.

- Ascension has never done /sea "person" to find out if they were camping a HNM. Our tactic was, if we saw certain LS in zones with HNM, we would send 1 person to get the exact ToD (trust me having the exact ToD makes a HUGE difference), then probably try camping it the next day. But this almost never happened since our numbers were not high enough (for kings and such). I guess this makes them ethical, but continue reading . . .

Now, I have a couple questions as a reader of this, and I am sure I am not the only one:

Why make such a big deal about the ethics of a VIDEO GAME?? I mean, the way you guys are debating this, you make it sound like a job where someone got a promotion ahead of you because they did something underhanded. Last time I checked, people played games to kick back, relax, and have some fun. If playing a game is going to lead to a furious ethics debate, by all means continue, because it makes for some extremely funny/sad reading material while at work.

Now let the flaming contine ^^b
 
Sorry, forgot something (damn no edit)

- Fishbot is also a member of Ascension, Scypio. I know this for the same reason I know Ben Wallace is Kisada.
 
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