Well, I wasn't calling his members out on selling them. I was just stating it'd be a nice way to turn 1 mil, into 4-6 mil easily.
I got my Relic Dagger, I need to buy some coins.
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Flameass said:
You know, it boggles my mind why you all want to start things on the auction house boards. I don't rip my shell off. Tell me how I rip my shell off by letting anyone host so long as they show me that they're not bazaaring in battalia for profit? Tell me how Ellemire isn't ripping her shell off by leeching off them. How much richer would others be if Elemmire wasn't attached to their jugular ripping every last one of them off? I dunno, you tell me, because I'm looking at my gil when I hit control+E, and I don't see anything that I haven't earned myself.
Oh wait, nevermind. I bought vang's account with the profit. Now I'm down to 854 mil.
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Skaw said:
Dynamis isn't "easily." Honestly 4 million gil profit from a dynamis is a great feat, and it is 100% deserved. Now if I were a total grubber like your typical 1st class HNM forum poster who looks down on others based on internet merit, I'd just take that profit and consider it payment for successfully giving people shot after shot at relic armor. After all, I worked for it. I earned it. I'm sacrificing... :roll:
But I'm not like you all even though you like to think I'm in this for the money with all your hypocritical hearts. Tell you what, when you give me a free HQ, I'll start charging for my expertise in dynamis. Then we'll have switched roles, and I can play you for a day.
Until then I'm watching who I give coins while building my baby with my own blood and my own gil. There's no doubt I could generate gil for myself if I wanted to. It's not going to happen though. I'm developing a way to make this current coin price benefit all my members, and not just a few leeches who are sucking the life out of an activity that just got a heck of a lot more interesting if this price continues. The people who pay 5k for coins don't deserve relic weapons. Period. I'd rather have a shell that uses coins to benefit all members rather than helping 2 or 3 bums out.
Peregrine said:
What? Great feat? You'd only need 100 coins. Shit, if 25 drop, you're in the black. If you can't get 25, then well, I'm very sorry. :?
And Dynamis isn't easy? Is your shell that lagged behind? Theres a big difference between difficult and time consuming. While it is indeed time consuming it really isn't that difficult.
So having people with relics in your linkshell isn't beneficial to everyone? What the fuck... seriously. Such backwards logic.
Oh, and before you nitpick, not all shells are like yours with just random people thrown in. Valkyrs', for example, shells are pretty mirrored from the regular, and mamebers are part of both activities. Hence, you know, the cooperation and the 5k coins. They aren't bums, they're paying for Dynamis, while strengthening not only Perfect, but Valkyrs as well. Good Job.
Fuck, I was too late to edit before the retardation hit with a reply.
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You have no clue as to the amount of energy it takes to keep a dynamis shell running. No clue.
No, people with relic weapons in my shell doesn't help the shell. Lol you have to be kidding. It's one person. One weapon. If you all think they'll miraculously do 3k weaponskills you're funny. Stop it. At the end of 7 months I can give one person a relic weapon, or I can disburse 600 million in gil back to the shell. Gee, let's see...what's really helping the SHELL?
No, I'm not out to make one beggar a king. I'm out to make 40 people who don't wonder why they're slaving to benefit a few teacher's pets in the shell. I've had people who tried to fool me into thinking they were actually upgrading, when in reality they were just paying it lipservice. From now on they have to prove to me that they're upgrading and need that specific coin. Otherwise, all those coins go back to the shell, and not to the individual on discount. I can tap the market price and reward the entire shell more than Elemmire could possibly hope to achieve alone. Your shells are wasting so much potential on so little...
No, people with relic weapons in my shell doesn't help the shell. Lol you have to be kidding. It's one person. One weapon. If you all think they'll miraculously do 3k weaponskills you're funny. Stop it. At the end of 7 months I can give one person a relic weapon, or I can disburse 600 million in gil back to the shell. Gee, let's see...what's really helping the SHELL?
No, I'm not out to make one beggar a king. I'm out to make 40 people who don't wonder why they're slaving to benefit a few teacher's pets in the shell. I've had people who tried to fool me into thinking they were actually upgrading, when in reality they were just paying it lipservice. From now on they have to prove to me that they're upgrading and need that specific coin. Otherwise, all those coins go back to the shell, and not to the individual on discount. I can tap the market price and reward the entire shell more than Elemmire could possibly hope to achieve alone. Your shells are wasting so much potential on so little...
Peregrine said:
You're obviously missing the big picture. :roll:
Do you know what a continuous dark/light chain can do? I doubt it, from the sounds of things.
Here's a Hint. Standard Trick Attack Light > Burst Thunder > Second Trick Attack Light > Burst Fire > Third trick Attack Light> Burst Aero > Repeat as necessary. It's not just about weaponskill damage, moron, but rather what it enables for hate placement and magic burst. Hurrrr. So I guess taking bosses down faster is somehow a bad thing now, and in no way does it help a dynamis/hnm shell out, huh?
"Teacher's Pets" would translate out to "Dedicated People" in most cases. It's rare that favortism plays effect in these days, with systems around to provent it. Also, why evenly distribute coins when you'll be bottle necked by attestations and Xarcabard drops? Your cause is just, but it doesn't fit in this case.
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Skaw said:
Continuous light/dark chain... :roll: boy are you in for disillusionment if a NA ever actually shows you a relic weaponskill.
Ironically the most dedicated of my members don't want anything to do with coins and upgrading. We don't have shell leeches that others do. We've discussed this in the shell. Your most dedicated members are the most dedicated because they're sucking the coins from a shell. Gee, you think decidence is going to miss a run that he can shirk coins off of for 5k a piece? I don't think so. He'll show every time because it serves him. The rest...screw them. They're not DEDICATED. Dedicated does not equate to being rich. Dedicated=showing up every run. I guarantee you in the end I will pay my dedicated members more than any shell out there. Your all's shells are not about rewarding dedication. They're about putting few on pedestals they don't deserve.
Why evenly distribute coins? Genious, do you not see what I wrote? I can take seven months and give one person a relic weapon, or I can take seven months and give each member of my shell multiple millions of gil on top of armor. Screw relic weapons. If you want relic, pay market. My shell isn't going to go out of its way to put you up at our expense.
So giving them gil aids the shell? Yet if they buy better equipment, you call them idiots for paying 2 million for +1 STR? You're a fucking idiot, you know that? A hypocritical peice of shit.
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Actually, you're right, I don't. You're saying everything for me. You want them to have a lot of gil, but you're against them spending it in spite of it.
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And you're giving them nothing at all, because it's the forum HQ bastard way. Doesn't suprise me that the likes of you would rather me give coins to the few at a discount instead of benefitting the many from market price. I don't give them the worthless armor that you idiotically farm for like it makes the slightest difference. I hand them gil. Limitless potential. I don't think I even have people stupid enough to be you, buying nothing for everything. They're probably smart enough to know what to do with gil.
Take it to the flame board, kiddo, if you REALLY want to be out of your element. Here you're just insignificant.
Take it to the flame board, kiddo, if you REALLY want to be out of your element. Here you're just insignificant.
What? Hold on to it? No seriously. Tell me what the point of the gil is if they can't spend it. Does it make their e-dick larger? Does it give them more HP/MP/STR/ATK/DEF/VIT/ACC/DEX/EVA/Resists? Cause I'm fucking clueless as to what having 999,999,999 gil means if spending it makes you an idiot. And 3 hours in Dynamis for, in most cases, shitty armor and piss gil? WHAT A REWARD!
Judging by the sound of 100 coins being an incredible feat to you divided among 40+ people. <100k in 3 hours isn't good farming money. It's well below subpar at 75. More importantly, what morons do you have following you into this shitty repressive setup? I'd shoot myself if I went to your Dynamis runs.
Judging by the sound of 100 coins being an incredible feat to you divided among 40+ people. <100k in 3 hours isn't good farming money. It's well below subpar at 75. More importantly, what morons do you have following you into this shitty repressive setup? I'd shoot myself if I went to your Dynamis runs.
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600 million gil sounds like limitless potential, until you realize it took 40+ people 168 man-hours each to get it. For someone with the ability to perform in Dynamis, ~70k/hr and a shot at rare/ex shinies that may or may not benefit their character in the least seems more like wasted potential than limitless.
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EXACTLY.
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Skaw said:
No, spend it wisely. As in not like a dumbass named skaw. I didn't think I was being obtuse. Spending over a year's worth of 40 people's effort on one person's relic weapon...yeah, like I said, someone as deficient as you would jump right on that like you jump right on spending millions on worthless things like one strength point at L75. You're being uniform. You have no dissonance at least, which is noble. Unfotunately it's uniformly dim, and as far as cognition goes that usually accompanies that--not existant. You're just a fanboy spewing a prior topic at me like I have to be reminded what I said by some 2-bit forum dog.
They could spend it on better food for dynamis.
They could spend their 100 coin on half a scorpion harness that they don't have yet because they're "gimp" to you people.
They could spend it on the things I hope they spend it on, and if they don't, at least I'm giving the rewards of dynamis to my whole team and not just pandering to a couple people for some vanity weapon at the end of it all.
Peregrine said:
You know what dumbshit? I asked you to show me what I could upgrade better with a lousy 600k net, and you never replied. So yeah, you're obviously just trying to justify your skirting mediocrity by calling others who don't want to be in the same line as you idiots for being better in solo, group, alliance, and dynamis situations.
By the way, hick retard:
Peregrine said:
I was unaware recalling something you posted earlier in this very thread was recalling something in a previous one.
Your "I don't have it, so you can't either" attitude is played out, find a new trick, puppy.
You have nothing to say, fanboy.
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Lol hick retard...it's your bedtime. Aaaand sleep.
You all have to ask yourselves if your relic weapon hunters are honestly worth giving 500 ***MILLION*** gil discounts. If they are, give them the coins instead of disbursing the market value. But if not, they have you wrapped around their finger. Again, if a player like Decidence is worth a 500 million gil discount, I'm the king of ****ing humility.
You all have to ask yourselves if your relic weapon hunters are honestly worth giving 500 ***MILLION*** gil discounts. If they are, give them the coins instead of disbursing the market value. But if not, they have you wrapped around their finger. Again, if a player like Decidence is worth a 500 million gil discount, I'm the king of ****ing humility.
Peregrine said:
No, I'm just bringing it back to you, since you suffer from "Post and forget about and ignore it" syndrome.
Oh, and what are you going to do to keep your moron-squad happy when they make adjustments to relic aquisition and coins aren't flying out for so much? Fly out and give each of them a handjob?
And to those that do follow this ilk into dynamis that like/used to like me that I do not know about, I will not retract my statements, as this is your leader, and a reflection upon yourselves. I'd very much like if you'd guys take the time to think about what this idiot has said, and is saying now.
And to Veld, sorry your thread has degenerated as such. But it's the way Peregrine is. Always first post demeaning something, showing his hypocrisy, or insulting someone. And it always happens to whatever thread he touches. Like some twisted bastardization of King Midas.
Peregrine said:I don't even know what you're saying. It took you three edits to come up with that POS post
Cause instead of rather post a new post every time, I'd rather just add. You can counter any of those points should you come up with a way to. If you can.
To reiterate:
1. I called out your glaring display "Shit I posted something that can be used against me, time to ignore it." Original Post, by the way.
2. Asked how you'll keep your members happy after the iminent relic change. Edit 1: Totally different topic, but saving space on the forums by adding.
3. Questioned your members as to how they can follow an idiot like you. Edit 2: same thing.
4. Apologized for your derailment and destruction of this thread for you. It's more than you deserve, but atleast the guy gets an explination as to why this happened. Edit 3: Same.
I seriously have no clue how you got 4, but I'd expect nothing less from someone in Kentucky.