Multi-Plat Left 4 Dead

[Skaw]

I am thinking of picking up the PC version of this since I don't have a gold account. Then again, offline co-op is probably better for me.

I'd pick up the PC version anyway for community content. Which I'm sure there'll be a lot of.

 

[Elemmire]

why are people stupid enough to buy console versions of Valve's stuff? Hell, half of what keeps their games alive is the modding community which, well, doesn't do so well come console games.

 

[Miruyasha]

why are people stupid enough to buy console versions of Valve's stuff? Hell, half of what keeps their games alive is the modding community which, well, doesn't do so well come console games.

Probably because not everyone has a gaming computer.

 

[Elemmire]

gaming computers are cheaper to build if you know where to get stuff for good prices than consoles are specially reliable console and will have comparable graphics..

but come the fawk on, Valve's engine is OLD and such, you don't need a next gen console type power to run their games.

 

[Miruyasha]

Touche. I don't think its about a need of next gen console to run Valve's engine, but more about it being multi-platform. You don't need a next gen console to play FFXI, but people still buy it for 360 cuz of it being multi-platform now.

And yes I know FFXI was released for PC before ps2

 

[TheOsyris]

why are people stupid enough to buy console versions of Valve's stuff? Hell, half of what keeps their games alive is the modding community which, well, doesn't do so well come console games.

Thats a dumb ass question.

I buy the 360 version because i have 15 friends on left 4 dead every night. Thats why i am stupid enough to buy a Valve game for a console.

I have a gaming rig in the $4000 price range. I dont play PC games with anyone online. I play them for one thing only and that is graphics.

Why are you so fucking stupid that anyone who is not in line with you and your habbits is a considered a moron?

 

[Miruyasha]

Thats a dumb ass question.

I buy the 360 version because i have 15 friends on left 4 dead every night. Thats why i am stupid enough to buy a Valve game for a console.

I have a gaming rig in the $4000 price range. I dont play PC games with anyone online. I play them for one thing only and that is graphics.

Why are you so fucking stupid that anyone who is not in line with you and your habbits is a considered a moron?

I'm pretty sure the "" after the first sentence meant she didn't really think everyone was stupid for buying a console version of a pc game.

 

[Skaw]

gaming computers are cheaper to build if you know where to get stuff for good prices than consoles are specially reliable console and will have comparable graphics..

but come the fawk on, Valve's engine is OLD and such, you don't need a next gen console type power to run their games.

I wouldn't say they're cheaper to build, but they're definitely cheaper to upgrade.

You're going to be hard pressed to build a decent gaming rig for $300 or under from scratch. $600 is pretty reasonable for a PC that can run current games on average/higher than average settings. Engines aren't the only thing that make up a games system requirements. My old machine could run Half-Life 2 great, but sucked at TF2. Same engine, but different rendering methods and poly counts.

 

[Firestreak]

Buying a game based on console friend's is a very short term decision. For the most part, you will get a short burst of a lot of activity, and then everyone moves onto the next game. The difference being on PS3 or Xbox 360, the community you'll find is centered around the platform - attempting to always evangelize whatever is new. PC games have communities built specifically around the games - and you'll meet people there, who will be there for a much longer period of time.

So if you'd rather just get the console version, it basically says you are accepting you'll be sick of the game once the next one hits. That's alright, but it is what it is, a marginalized experience. Not damning anyone for it, it's what I do for the most part, I'm just very aware of it, which makes me fairly amused at people counting pixels on the PS3 vs Xbox 360 comparisons. They are essentially the same thing. People paying more to get less, for the convenience of not having to deal with PC related bullshit and to jump on the collective bandwagon.

 

[Elemmire]

I'm pretty sure the "" after the first sentence meant she didn't really think everyone was stupid for buying a console version of a pc game.

nah, I really don't think people who get it are stupid since most really will get it to play with friends, but most of my friends don't play Valve games (the crazy weirdos) and so ya, I look for the product that I can get the most mileage outta and, with Valve games, that's PC all the time thanks to the mod community.

Hell, the reason there's CS/CS:S, Team Fortress (iirc), and L4D is because of the mod community.

I wouldn't say they're cheaper to build, but they're definitely cheaper to upgrade.

You're going to be hard pressed to build a decent gaming rig for $300 or under from scratch. $600 is pretty reasonable for a PC that can run current games on average/higher than average settings. Engines aren't the only thing that make up a games system requirements. My old machine could run Half-Life 2 great, but sucked at TF2. Same engine, but different rendering methods and poly counts.

I actually was thinking the 500-600 range (as in the PS3 price range) and a hinting jab at the 360 when I said "reliability" but ya, they are definitely cheaper to upgrade too.

And ya, that's true too about the poly count and rendering method, but I think, iirc, L4D didn't require an UBER machine to run (like Crysis or whatnot would need, even though those games are inferior to L4D! D: )

 

[Pupusa]

Friend brought the game over last night, was tons of fun, but it seemed real easy on normal difficulty. Guess since we're so used to FPS games we had no real problems watching each others back, only thing that got me was the Witch, didn't know I should've left it alone, friend fooled me into thinking it was a survivor, LOL.

Online wise I really enjoyed being the zombies, espicially the Hunter, since I usually had top damage with it. It's a great game, but I got a feeling with 2 player co-op you can rush by real easy through the story, and multiplayer I didn't see too many modes. It's fun for what it is, but I won't be buying it, seems like it'll lose it's appeal after a few weeks.

 

[TheOsyris]

Friend brought the game over last night, was tons of fun, but it seemed real easy on normal difficulty. Guess since we're so used to FPS games we had no real problems watching each others back, only thing that got me was the Witch, didn't know I should've left it alone, friend fooled me into thinking it was a survivor, LOL.

Online wise I really enjoyed being the zombies, espicially the Hunter, since I usually had top damage with it. It's a great game, but I got a feeling with 2 player co-op you can rush by real easy through the story, and multiplayer I didn't see too many modes. It's fun for what it is, but I won't be buying it, seems like it'll lose it's appeal after a few weeks.

Impossible mode on this game is very difficult. One friendly fire shot and a team mate goes down... One freakin bullet.. I will continue my push through the game on impossible tho.

 

[Pasquale]

The end of Dead Air is tough. Is there a trick to killing tanks? I ask because I hate them.

 

[Makelith]

I've found using molotovs is the best way to take them out. Our try and lead them in range of the mini-gun thats stationed there.

 

[Pasquale]

I've found using molotovs is the best way to take them out. Our try and lead them in range of the mini-gun thats stationed there.

Sometimes it feels like the molotovs just make them angrier.

We've been trying to get him in range of the minigun but he's a crafty son of a bitch. Is there a way to dodge his ground-throw attack? It seems like once he picks up the chunk of cement you can't avoid getting hit.

 

[Rannoch]

Yes, make is right.

Molotov them and just run, they'll die from the flames.

For the first part of the finale, you can just hide in the closet, have 2 people crouch, and 2 people stand, have the crouching people use auto-shotty, and the standing people use the m16. ( are they m16s? ) Best way to do it without taking any damage before the tank imo

 

[Pasquale]

Yes, make is right.

Molotov them and just run, they'll die from the flames.

For the first part of the finale, you can just hide in the closet, have 2 people crouch, and 2 people stand, have the crouching people use auto-shotty, and the standing people use the m16. ( are they m16s? ) Best way to do it without taking any damage before the tank imo

The pre-tank part isn't bad, it's just the first tank and the sea of zombies that proceeds the second tank. I'm a fan of this closet-hiding idea, though. We'll have to try it out.

This game is so great when you play it with other people. Last night on Blood Harvest we hid in the cottage on top of a hill to try an pick the tank off unharmed. He came in through the window we all thought was way too small for him to fit. My friend threw a molotov at him and ended up lighting all of us on fire because the cottage was too small. It was awesome.

 

[Rannoch]

Haha.

I always light myself on fire by accident with the molotovs.

Later tonight if you want I can help you guys beat all the campaigns on expert, they're really easy if you got a smart group.

 

[Pasquale]

Haha.

I always light myself on fire by accident with the molotovs.

Later tonight if you want I can help you guys beat all the campaigns on expert, they're really easy if you got a smart group.

Expert is the mode where you get downed by a single shot of friendly fire, right? We wouldn't make it out of the starting area.

 

[Rannoch]

15 hp per pellet, so yea, a shotgun blast wouldn't be good.

We can do advanced if you want.