Metal Gear Solid 4 - Official Thread

Just from my store last night it sold 9 systems and 54 copies of the game. That is only about 1/2 our pre-ordered product.
 
Played it for a couple hours, I do believe there is going to be a lot of replay value in this.

As far as if it's linear or not. Well, let me clear that up if I can.

It's not linear.

But it's not a sandbox. There's a difference. You can have very different experiences in it. You don't have to go in the same routes, though there are bottlenecks you might have to. If you look around, there are lots of little routes to take, and with very varied enemy AI, it's going to be different every time.

I mean, it's all a matter of semantics, in that the depth and the options open to you increase the more experiences you get. There is a learning curve, and from what I understand, you won't reach the peak until after you play the game through and then pay some more. This isn't a game you play through once or twice, it's a game you might play for a long time.

In that vein, I don't think Metal Gear Online is meant to be played until you've absolutely mastered the single player. If I had to say what I felt about it right now, I doubt I'd say I had a better time than Osy playing it. But until any of us spend a long time, getting all the little details of the game down, then Metal Gear online isn't going to be designed for us.

As for the story, can't complain so far. I think.. yes, it is getting to look better than GTA4's story, but... GTA is a much better story for "mass market", in that it's essentially a bunch of mobster movies and an immigrant movie put into a blender. Halo 3 is essentially a really cliche army movie and a somewhat bad sci fi movie put into a blender together. These are all fine for video game plots. Metal Gear Solid is a bit different. It's original and mature while being bloated, full of in-references and trying to mind-fuck you at every turn.

You can't compare their plots because there's no comparison. They aren't the same species. It's like comparing 12 Monkeys to Stargate.

The only thing I really have to take issue with is saying that MGS4 is just "above par" in the graphics department. I think we can look at 8 games so far this gen and say these are the best looking games.

UT3
Uncharted
Heavenly Sword
Call of Duty 4
Mass Effect
Assassin's Creed
Gears of War
MGS4

Now you can make an argument that one is better looking than the other, and I don't think it's going to come down to much more than opinion. On top of it all, people might want to take different things into account. Like... do we look at animations, like Uncharted surely has the edge in? Do we take how much is actually on screen into account? In which Gears of War might lose points? Do we look at frame rate? I don't know.

For me, I might say COD4 and MGS4 are tied for first. Firstly, I don't like games where they make everything really shiny and put filters over everything to try and make it look better. I don't think cartoony graphics should get an edge cause it makes it easier to look good, which is why I didn't include Ratchet and Clank.

Metal Gear Solid has environment that looks like real environments. It has people that look like people. It has effects that look like their real effects, and it looks cleaner, just as detailed and smoother looking game to show for itself than say, Gears of War.
 
Loved the game. Answered everything I wanted answered, had some nice twists and fights, beautiful graphics. Many more weapons than in previous games and just done amazing all around. The only thing it is missing is an epic boss fight. To this day, I still think that Psycho Mantis from MGS1 is the best boss fight ever, and MGS4 could have used something great like it. Going back through a 2nd time now on hardest difficulty.
 
Just beat ACT one and damn this game is awesome. After I beat it I might have to pick up the MGS back an play MGS1-4 in one sitting lol.
 
Just beat ACT one and damn this game is awesome. After I beat it I might have to pick up the MGS back an play MGS1-4 in one sitting lol.

Heh, in the two weeks before MGS4 came out, I played them all again. I wanted to make sure I had all the plot mysteries fresh in my mind so that when they were answered, I could flip a shit, which I did. There was even one moment near the end of Act 4 when I stood and said Wait, what the fuck? !!
 
Act one done.

BRB New pants. I'll have a more detailed review of gameplay later tonight
 
Heh, in the two weeks before MGS4 came out, I played them all again. I wanted to make sure I had all the plot mysteries fresh in my mind so that when they were answered, I could flip a shit, which I did. There was even one moment near the end of Act 4 when I stood and said Wait, what the fuck? !!

please tell me the game isnt that short? o.O
 
Spoiler:
Holy fucking shit. Act 4. Shadow Moses. You are Metal Gear REX, and you fight Metal Gear RAY. The first time you get to actually control a Metal Gear. God damn, that was a fun fight, and whole act in general. Very very tastefully remade.
 
Lanien's a machine :3
 
The Saget doesn't know when to quit.
 
I definitely would have liked it to be longer. I bet if I skipped through all the cutscenes and just blazed through the game killing everything, I could beat it in 5 hours. However, just watching the cutscenes, along with going through stealth which I always try to do in MGS, it took me 12 hours on Big Boss Hard. I have just started going through on The Boss Hard or whatever they call it lol The highest difficulty.
 
iogndoigmfok nh, best game ever!!! I'm very close to the end, but decided to take a break since a certain boss is giving me a hard time.

I'm going to play MGO, cya there :D
 
iogndoigmfok nh... wtf?
 
With cutscenes, Act 2 took me about 4 hours to play. Thats just 1 of 5 acts so avg'd out about 20 hours, give or take depending on how much you stealth/die/own etc.

Idk if this is a spoiler or not but:
Spoiler:
That laughing octopus bitch cheats and hide and seek i swear to god. i'd run around every room, check up and down and it'd still be 5 mins until i'd find her. Cheap hooker...


Fuck this game is so AWESOME. I can't believe gametrailers only gave it a 9.3, bitches. They didn't even look at online either but w/e.

Decided to take a break after the briefings for Act 3 and will pick it up again tomorrow. So good.
 
OMFGKLASDJALSKDJLASKDJLAKDJADJAKLDJLASDJLASKJD!!!!

I just jizzed all night long. had a cold sweat last night having dreams about Snake.
my god. Sadly I fell asleep while playing the game (I was sooo tired when I started to play). ITS SO FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD! this game is the shit!.

was worth the wait.
even though all the MGS's were worth it.

Hideo is the man
 
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