Police Officer punches 17 year old girl.

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Idiot got what she deserved.
 
There are places in NY where if I were to be flashed by a local cop while driving, that I would slow/hazards/continue driving until I got to a State Police or other county officer rather than pull over. I have been pulled over once
by an unmarked car, and I forced him to follow me 10 miles to a lighted public area, and wanted identification before I'd open the window - and was praised for it by the cop - but contrary to the cop love fest going on in some of this thread you can't assume just because someone is police that youre not in danger from them. Sorry.
 
Nicolette said:
There are places in NY where if I were to be flashed by a local cop while driving, that I would slow/hazards/continue driving until I got to a State Police or other county officer rather than pull over. I have been pulled over once
by an unmarked car, and I forced him to follow me 10 miles to a lighted public area, and wanted identification before I'd open the window - and was praised for it by the cop - but contrary to the cop love fest going on in some of this thread you can't assume just because someone is police that youre not in danger from them. Sorry.
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Nobody's saying that all police everywhere are all the American Heroes that the local F.O.P. would make them out to be.

They are still charged with upholding the law though.
 
They may be charged with upholding the law, but around here theyve also been charged with sodomizing people in their cells, stealing and using confiscated drugs, stealing money, kidnapping a guy off his porch and dropping him in the far rural backwoods on a gravel road and taking his shoes with them, several accidental deaths, and a public body cavity search of a woman pulled over for driving an out of state rental. I'll pass thanks.

also re: earlier in the thread, the police couldnt have asked for or identified themselves, and asked for zaltana's identification (or asked his name) before throwing him to the ground and cuffing him? I dont understand the bit where it was necessary in the process of identifying someone you have a warrant on to throw anyone in the immediate vicinity to the ground and cuff them before asking their name.
 
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Nicolette said:
They may be charged with upholding the law, but around here theyve also been charged with sodomizing people in their cells, stealing and using confiscated drugs, stealing money, kidnapping a guy off his porch and dropping him in the far rural backwoods on a gravel road and taking his shoes with them, several accidental deaths, and a public body cavity search of a woman pulled over for driving an out of state rental. I'll pass thanks.
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And those are the cops that we should be throwing up on websites to chastise instead of stupid situations like the jaywalking one.
 
Miros said:
And those are the cops that we should be throwing up on websites to chastise instead of stupid situations like the jaywalking one.
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I don't think there's any way I can agree with this more.
 
Nicolette said:
They may be charged with upholding the law, but around here theyve also been charged with sodomizing people in their cells, stealing and using confiscated drugs, stealing money, kidnapping a guy off his porch and dropping him in the far rural backwoods on a gravel road and taking his shoes with them, several accidental deaths, and a public body cavity search of a woman pulled over for driving an out of state rental. I'll pass thanks.
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And your average citizen does far worse, more often. It's not that all cops are paragons of virtue, it's that the actual percentage of bad cops is extremely tiny. Take precautions? Sure. Automatically assume that all cops are bad and out to get you? Why? I've never had a single negative experience with a law enforcement officer. Not one. And I'd wager that most of the people in this thread who are antagonistic to the police haven't either, or wouldn't have if their attitudes hadn't gotten in the way.

also re: earlier in the thread, the police couldnt have asked for or identified themselves, and asked for zaltana's identification (or asked his name) before throwing him to the ground and cuffing him? I dont understand the bit where it was necessary in the process of identifying someone you have a warrant on to throw anyone in the immediate vicinity to the ground and cuff them before asking their name.
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Depends on the nature of his brother's record, and how the warrant for his arrest was worded. If his brother has any violent crimes on his record, then the police were just being cautious, and it's well within standard procedure to jump him quite quickly. If he's got a history of running from the cops, same deal. And besides, as was mentioned by the victim in that instance, he would be easily mistaken for their intended target, and was at the address they expected to find the target at. People keep acting like he was randomly assaulted by police in the middle of the street for no reason...
 
Nicolette said:
There are places in NY where if I were to be flashed by a local cop while driving, that I would slow/hazards/continue driving until I got to a State Police or other county officer rather than pull over. I have been pulled over once
by an unmarked car, and I forced him to follow me 10 miles to a lighted public area, and wanted identification before I'd open the window - and was praised for it by the cop - but contrary to the cop love fest going on in some of this thread you can't assume just because someone is police that youre not in danger from them. Sorry.
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Cop love fest lol. I was speaking to GBB the other day about how I've randomly been stopped by the cops for no real reason. I stayed calm because I know I didn't do anything and nothing happened. I'm not a fan of some cops because some of them suck, but they have to enforce the law whether they suck at it or not. We can't just assume every cop is a bad cop.
 
lol, that reminds me of this time when Stine got stopped on the way back from a state fair for having a headlight out. We had Hornless's ex-husband in the back seat and when the cop stopped, he was freaking out. Literally, like flipping out that a cop was stopping us. When the cop was talking to Stine, he made a point to say something like "officer, officer...I'm just..reaching...for...my...wallet". The cop looked at him like "what the hell?" and looked at us like "what the shit is his problem?" lol.
 
Raesvelg said:
And your average citizen does far worse, more often. It's not that all cops are paragons of virtue, it's that the actual percentage of bad cops is extremely tiny. Take precautions? Sure. Automatically assume that all cops are bad and out to get you? Why? I've never had a single negative experience with a law enforcement officer. Not one. And I'd wager that most of the people in this thread who are antagonistic to the police haven't either, or wouldn't have if their attitudes hadn't gotten in the way.
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I am glad you have not and while my encounters both direct and indirect with law enforcement are few, the majority of the ones I have had, have been poor. This isn’t an attitude issue, as I am not always involved but only a witness to poor conduct by law enforcement. When I am involved, I am always polite and do as I am requested. There have been three major things, but most of the time they are minor but still it wears on my opinion of law enforcement and makes me view them with suspicion.

I would not discount other people’s encounters or assume it is something they have done just because you have not had such an experience. It only takes a few bad experiences to make someone ignore any good ones.
 
just goes back to what i said before. cops are people. there are good people and bad ones. the occupation makes no difference other then the form of themselves they portray . if someone is a good person, they will be a good person no matter what their job or hobby is. and vice versa. Using bad experiences as an excuse to hate and/or judge a whole group makes you plain ignorant.
 
Of course, the ultimate irony is that while it's apparently A-OK to assume that all cops are assholes based off one's limited experiences, the second a cop even so much as thinks 2 people look similar (say, two brothers *wink, wink*), people are falling over themselves to call the ACLU.
 
 
Oh Dowzer, you crack me up.
 
lol it was only a matter of time before this got spoofed or something. they could have done better. :-Þ
 
Dancingweapon said:
That did look kinda painful actually lol.
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If your first instinct upon seeing an acquaintance resist arrest is to wrench yourself away from your sensible friend (who is keeping you out of it) and go slap the man with a gun, then you are either too high or too stupid to feel pain.
 
Halifirien said:
I'm glad your experiences with police have all been positive and that you've never had reason to believe a cop was in a pissy mood or just looking for a fight or eager to flex his authoritarian muscles because someone didn't take his badge as seriously as he thought he was due.
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All I'm getting from your posts is that you've had a bad experience with police in the past, and this is tainting your opinion of this (and probably other) incidents involving police officers. Perhaps if you turned your own logic on yourself, you might realise that, while you infer that people have only had good experience with cops so they don't think they can do any wrong, your bad experiences are skewing your impartiality.

On topic, bitch deserved everything she got. I don't are how petty an offense it was, she broke the law, she disobeyed a police officer, and then she physically assaulted him. I'd have punched the bitch too.
 
bigbroon said:
All I'm getting from your posts is that you've had a bad experience with police in the past, and this is tainting your opinion of this (and probably other) incidents involving police officers. Perhaps if you turned your own logic on yourself, you might realise that, while you infer that people have only had good experience with cops so they don't think they can do any wrong, your bad experiences are skewing your impartiality.
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You are correct that I've had a bad experience. I've also had many good experiences. When these threads come up in which a cop used questionable judgment, people are quick to rush to their defense in a way I sometimes find troublesome because I don't think police should just be able to do anything they want for sake of compliance. The good cops rarely get featured on discussion boards. I still think this particular cop was a moron, but we can Agree To Disagree™ on that one.
 
Halifirien said:
You are correct that I've had a bad experience. I've also had many good experiences. When these threads come up in which a cop used questionable judgment, people are quick to rush to their defense in a way I sometimes find troublesome because I don't think police should just be able to do anything they want for sake of compliance. The good cops rarely get featured on discussion boards. I still think this particular cop was a moron, but we can Agree To Disagree™ on that one.
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I completely agree that cops shouldn't have free reign just because "they're cops." Where our opinions differ though, I think, is that I believe when someone over-steps the mark and becomes aggressive towards a police officer, they're opening themselves up to, at best, being arrested for breach of the peace (that's what it's called over here, not sure about anywhere else.) I've had maybe 4 experiences with cops in my life. Every time so far, I've acted with dignity and respect, even when they were (in my opinion) out of line or being petty. I got booked for doing 91mph on a 70mph motorway. Fair enough, but they were hidden in trees and it's the law that police officers have to be visible to catch you speeding. It was 1am, the motorway was pretty much deserted, and they were hiding in the bush above the motorway. I took the ticket, apologised for wasting their time, and drove home at 90mph the rest of the way.

I've only ever had good experiences with cops, so I'm biased, but I'm also not stupid. There are rogue cops, bad cops, angry cops, stupid cops and sometimes good cops. The reason I have no sympathy for this woman is that she brought it upon herself by being aggressive and actually laying her hands on a cop. If the same thing happened to me, and I wanted to persuade the cop he was wrong, I'd try and talk to him about it in a calm way. What did she really think was going to happen when she tried to wrestle a cop off someone he was arresting?

Perhaps he shouldn't have punched her, I don't know the first thing about police protocol, I just think she deserved it. Whether or not the cop should be disciplined is a matter of rules. If, as I recall reading, he was withing his rights to punch her in the chops, not much can/will be done about it. Again, if she'd just kept calm and kept her hands to herself, none of this would have happened.
 
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